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Joane,

Because with one hand AERC says "it's a race" by only allowing the top 
ten to show for BC, with full weight and time calculated just like the 
50s.

Then "it's not a race" by printing names only without placement or 
times in EN.

More variation between rides in regions without a regional 
organization?  Possibly, maybe not.  Ours (PS) is one w/o a regional 
org., and all but one of us treat the LDs the same as the 50s in terms 
of BCs and completion awards.  One ride (Coso Junction Jam) even has 
the same entry fee for both distances, can't get more equal than that! 
<tongue firmly lodged in cheek>  The last time I remember different 
completion awards for each distance (PS) was back in '97 or so.

A number of us have given the AERC-style LD BC thing a try.  Most of us 
give high vet score type awards to LD only, and often that's to 5 
places.

I would really like the dichotomy to go away--either it's a race or 
it's a ride, OR it's a race AND it's a ride (the way the 50s are, 
there's a "winner", and those of us who feel to complete is to 
win--room for both types of riders).  So if the organization has 
decided that it's BOTH, then give LDers their placement and ride times 
published in EN!

There's nothing that precludes RMs from emphasizing completion in their 
award structure.  No need to give a first place award, would just 
require reporting it.

(I use Angie's old suggestion of an entry to the next year's 50 as my 
first place award for LDs...I call it the "Hot Shoes" award and present 
a certificate on red paper, with the graphic of shoes with wings, 
always good for a chuckle.  Likewise we give turtle awards for both 
distances, usually something practical like saddlebags--you're gonna 
need something to pack a lunch in if you're gonna be out there that 
long!)

Lynne



On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:35 PM, Joane Pappas White wrote:

> Our Mountain Region has?rides (which shall remain nameless) that 
> barely acknowledge the existence of LD, provide little vetting for LD, 
> and absolutely no best condition for LD.? Then we get rides like 
> the?Black Hills Ride where the LD?riders were?given the same kind and 
> supportive attention as the 50's and were vetted with the same 
> demanding standards as the 50's.? The sad thing is that such 
> inconsistencies within the Mountain Region mean that the LD riders of 
> that region cannot pursue what should be the most important and 
> coveted national award for LDers---LD Best Condition--because so few 
> of our rides even bother to judge BC. I don't know enough about the 
> other regions to judge them, but I suspect?at least some are like the 
> Mountain Region.? ?Why did AERC even bother to create the award if it 
> was not going to require an LD Best Condition? to be given as part of 
> a sanctioned ride?? 

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