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Lets take a example from say basketball. A fastbreak in trying break up 
the play a defender is over zelous and causes an injury to the other 
player. It will be investigated if it is found that the act was 
egregious the player is diciplined. This does not only happen in 
basketball it happens in most sports. I've even seen it in track where a 
runner cut another off, causing him to fall and on his way down catching 
someone elses spikes. The runner that was triped up was my teammate and 
he ended up with 10 stiches in the arm. Those were in the days were 
track spikes were very sharp. The offending runner was suspended for a 
month.

Now there is no reason the AERC cannot be much more proactive in their 
enforcement of equine welfare. Today it takes someone filing a protest, 
but why not in the case you state where someone is in fact chronically 
riding their horse to the edge, an automatic protest is filed or the 
case of a by the horse welfare committee and it is handled the way any 
other protest is handled.

I don't see that losing points is going to make much difference - not 
being able to ride might.

Truman



terre wrote:

>    I had thought of  this--you are absolutely correct.
>    However--"shortly"--how shortly?  If the horse passes all 
> completion criteria, and 'later' started to 'feel bad', the ride vet 
> would have to authority to decided that that horse did not "require" 
> treatment, just that it would be a good idea to "prevent" further 
> deterioration.  Also to define "serious" in this context--treated 
> early, it might be simply some banamine.
>    I DO share your concern.  I suppose the question is: overall, which 
> will be more prevalent--riders who refuse treatment rather than lose 
> points, or riders who override because there are no consequences (to 
> themselves)?  If the vet feels that a horse "requires" treatment, the 
> result is the same whether it is treated or not (6.2.1.7--"any equine 
> that a ride veterinarian advises should be treated for a metabolic or 
> soundness problem, but treatment is refused by the rider or owner, 
> shall be considered in the same light as a treated horse...")
>    If not "angie's rule", how DO we handle riders that chronically 
> ride their horses over the edge?   You and I have been around long 
> enough to have seen them--if they can't win a given ride, they don't 
> care if they complete.  Losing points for the whole season might get 
> their attention--little else seems to.  Maybe extremely high vet 
> bills?  But if they are prepared to replace the horse....
>    I dunno.  I DO see that problem...
>
> terre (oh, for a perfect world......)



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