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Re: [RC] [RC] [Guest] NEVER resort to a violent...? - Jim Holland

This is an interesting thread. I was gonna stay out of this...but just
can help putting in my two cents worth.  I'm picky about horses that I
buy....disposition is everything. Don't take on "fixing horses that
other people have screwed up", don't buy "reclamation projects", etc.  I
just value my body and health too much. 

I had ONE horse in 50 years of riding that reared. Half Quarter/Half
Thoroughbred mare and very opinionated. Her name was "Red Dixie Dot" and
she was the fastest Western Game horse in 6 counties. We lived on a loop
around a golf course and when you rode by the driveway to the barn, she
would try to turn in, then rear if you asked her to go on. I rapped her
firmly between the ears with a piece of closet rod cut for the purpose
just as she started to come up. Didn't try to leave a bump between her
ears, didn't do it in malice, and timed it carefully, anticipating the
rear. She NEVER tried it again. Never, not once...couldn't GET her up.
The intent was not to injure, but to make staying on the ground and
walking on MUCH more pleasant than rearing. From then on, when we
approached the driveway, Dixie would drop her head, slow down, and
"carefully" walk by the driveway without looking at the barn! In fact,
you had to REIN her into the driveway...wouldn't turn on her own! :) She
got the message!

My two horses are big dogs...they get the best of care, scratched in the
right places when they itch, numerous treats, fans in their stalls,
groomed daily, deep green pastures ...etc...every conceivable luxury a
horse could ask for. However, in return I expect them to be gentlemen at
all times. ANY indiscretion will be IMMEDIATELY and FIRMLY corrected.
99% of the time, that's an aggressive body posture. Exceptions are
kicking, biting, or rearing. That will get the horse 3 seconds of "I'm
gonna KILL you" with whatever I have in my hand...just NO contact in
front of the withers. My horses would never CONSIDER an aggressive
attitude toward me or any human. They ALWAYS show up with their "hat in
their hand".

Guess I'm in the "Whack 'em" category when it comes to dangerous
behavior. Horses NEED to know the rules. It's part of their herd
instinct...and it's important to make it easy to do the right thing and
HARD to do the wrong thing. With some horses, it requires a "light
touch". With others, you need to be aggressive. Like people, all horses
are different. There ARE no constants....what works with one horse, may
not work at all with another.

Just MHO...

Jim, Sun of Dimanche+ and Mahada Magic

A rearing horse has to have immediate and forceful correction for this
behaviour.

I do prefer a plastic baseball bat (the kind sold in toy stores for hitting
wiffle balls).  It is safer (for the horse), and really scares them into
finding other ways to express their displeasure.

Contrary to much modern thought, there is a place for pain in training
animals and humans.  Deliberate defiance, and certain extreme dangerous
behaviour are the places.

Ed


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