Re: [RC] Was LD /Completion Awards - Barbara McCraryDating ride awards is costly business. If the ride is suddenly cancelled due to extreme weather, if fewer riders finish than estimated, etc., etc., having dated leftover awards is very costly to ride management. Hate to dispute your opinion, but I've "been there and done that", too many times! Barbara McCrary Ride manager, Swanton Pacific 75/100 "The most beautiful trail in the world" ----- Original Message ----- From: "m l" <lindym007@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Rides 2 Far" <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [RC] Was LD /Completion Awards Putting on an endurance ride is alot of work. I personally think if you don't stay for the awards banquet, you don't get the award. Ride managers go through alot of work for the awards, the dinner etc. I have left rides before the awards, and went and got my award. The only time I usually leave a ride is because weather is bad or I have plans. Most ride managers like to give these awards out and want people to stay. I really wish at some of these rides the awards were worth staying for. As a rider, I love the T-shirts, but I really like awards that have the date on them. There are some ride managers, I won't mention names, that give the same award every year that has no date. What is the purpose of that? It gives nothing to the rider for their accomplishment. Lindy --- Rides 2 Far <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> wrote:I really> > hate it when they give them out thenight before,Where is that? I don't think I have ever seenthat. I've been to quite a few rides in the SE where you get your T-shirt at the pre-ride meeting or when you sign up. Then they just read the name of the finishers at the awards and they sit there. The reasoning is that it lets people leave after they finish if they choose to without hassleing the manager for their award...also, they feel bad for people who don't finish and want them to have their T-shirt anyway. Usually the managers who do this are the softer hearted ones who don't want to leave anyone out and are most worried about beginners, etc. same sort of folks who give "participation trophies" to every last kid on a ball team. Trouble is, it trivializes the entry level accomplishments and really leaves no goal to challenge them other than the *really* high ones like year end awards or BC. Right now, a completion would be a *big* deal to me again because I've had three straight non-completions. At my last non-completion I was given the T-shirt at sign in. It's a really nice T-shirt but I have no urge whatsoever to put it on since I didn't earn it. I just put it in Josie's drawer since she finished that ride. Another thing is that I like seeing people walk up when their names are called *after* the ride because I may remember riding with someone on the trail and it gives me a chance to put a name with a face. (Oh THAT'S who that jerk was! >eg<) If anybody wants to critique pre-ride or awards meetings *there*'s a new subject. :-) Angie________________________________________________________________The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!!=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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