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Re: [RC] Reason to round pen - superpatThe very best training video using the round pen that I have seen is the one by Clinton Anderson. If you kknow of someone who has his tapes, it is well worth the time. Not only reasons for round penning, but so easy to understand and follow. The sense of the why and how. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie E Caldwell" <sec@xxxxxxxx> To: "April Johnson" <ridecamp_mail@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [RC] Reason to round pen Well, in my case, I round pen Tanna to get his attention focused on me and not on everything else in the world.Do you roundpen before every ride? Here lately, since I'm not riding enough to keep Star listening really well I usually take about 5 minutes either in the arena or in my pasture just getting her listening and behaving, it's easier than fighting the first 15 minutes of a trail ride.It's the coolest thing for him to start lowering his head, licking hislips,and pricking his ear to me. Then when I kiss to him (my cue of choice), he'll turn and come to me, alert, happy, and free. I stand and rub on him for a bit, then proceed with my preperations to ride or go feed him orturnhim back into the field.How do you get him to do this? I was taught by German trainers, my horse is not allowed to set foot inside my lunge circle. I have a hard time understanding *wanting* the horse to come in. If I want her, I go out to her.Anyway, so I put Tanna in the round pen as soon as I got it arranged. And I retaught him the kiss cue. Now I can go get him and he'll stand still, even when he's back in the back pasture with Serts(I'vealso since separated them during the night, so that helps). He'll let me come right to him. And if he starts to turn to leave, I'll kiss and he'll turn back to me, ears pricked, looking all cute. And if he's in the front pasture alone, he'll come right to me as soon as he realized I want him.Andthen he'll follow me all over the front pasture until I release him.My horse comes to me... Matter of fact, she knows the sound of my truck and is at the gait before I can be out of my truck and to the pasture... I never taught her that, it seems like as our relationship grew she wanted to be with me and it started. Now that she lives alone and there's no other horses around our bond is even stronger. Do your horses talk to you? When Star's down in the barn and I'm doing stuff, cleaning tack, etc.. on rainy days she'll nicker and I'll whistle back and we can go on for hours like that. Even some nights that I'm doing maintenance around I bring her down and stick her in a close stall for company. When I had an indoor arena last year she'd come lay by me while I cleaned tack. She and I have an amazing bond and she's a really special horse. My landlady says she's never seen anythign like Star and I in her 40+ years of being around horses.Oh, and by the way, I don't use a whip. Freaks Tanna out and destroys the communication I'm trying to re-establish. A hand pointing in the direction Iwant him to go and stepping towards his hindquarters with purpose does the job very nicely. If I ever feel I need more, I pick up the lead rope and toss the end half-heartedly at his butt. Any more and he starts into his flight response. Not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for trust, notfear. My horse had pretty severe agression issues (this sounds awful, but...) and when I first taught her to lunge I used a PVC pole because she'd charge me. This was the only way to keep me from being trampled and it did work wonders to direct her. I got kicked in the face when I first taught her, that was the day I learned that she charged people. As our relationship grew, the aggression quit. She has no flight response, it's fight to the death. And, I have to be very careful not to invoke that fight response, because she will fight until I either bring her down to the ground, tie her legs together (read emergency hobbles), or I leave, none are good options. I assume this goes back to her abusive start. She trusts me enough now to go to the ends of the earth for me, but until we had a bond I got hurt alot. I can remember learning how she was trained; I was having such severe problems with her I was considering putting her down. Everyday was a fight, she was lame from all the fighting and poor saddle fit, so I called the horse trader who brought her here. He's an old country trader and when he told me how brutally she was trained I started crying and went out to where I was boarding about 10pm (way after barn hours! LOL) and cried in her mane for a long time. That was really a turning point for us. She was head shy, would go over when a curb chain was placed on her, couldn't pick her feet, couldn't stand in front of her without being pawed, etc... When I realized that she had never been taught and this was her way of dealing with fear... it became alot clearer why she acted like she did!For Serts, my very well trained (not by me) free lease Arab, round penning is stupid. He already listens and already is well-trained. When I firstgothim, I thought he had to be round penned, so tried to teach him. HethoughtI was an idiot. After 3 or 4 sessions I thought, what the blast am Idoing?What am I trying to accomplish? When I thought, communication is what I want, I realized he and I already had that because of his previoustraining.So Serts hasn't been in the round pen since.That's about where Star and I are with lungeing now... I lunge only if I don't want crazy horse running around the pasture when I let her out, or if I'm too unbalanced to ride her antics out in the pasture before we ride... I lunged alot right after I got hurt last summer, just because I couldn't walk. LOL Much less ride!I think it's a good thing to analyze my training and tailor it to thehorseI'm working with (not that I'm any great trainer or done that manyhorses).Not to just blindly follow something just because. I think people shouldbeable to explain what they're doing and the goal they're trying to accomplish, at least to themselves. :-)That's all I look for... If you can't tell me why *you* do it, why should I do it? LOL You live in redneck country I'm sure you can understand! 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