Ridecamp: RE: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders

Well, I guess there will be some that will not care for my
thoughts so they can delete at this point.

I thought this was a competitive event. You have a measured
course, you have a predetermined maximum time established
for the distance and you have the horse and rider. The
predetermined time is very reasonable but it is possible
that one could exceed this time. Thus the competitive
nature. The possibility of failure to complete the distance
in the required time. The nature of competition.

So in this enlightened day and age, society has made it
unfathomable for someone to fail. We have reached the age of
mediocrity where every one is deemed successful.

Please, I thought that endurance competition was a bit
beyond this. I thought that endurance competitors were
stronger, had more fortitude, were leaders not whiners.

Guess I must be wrong. I wish I were not.

Steph There is one falsehood in your posting. <<<to find a
way to allow LD
competitors 6 hours to complete the event, but not
disqualify riders that
finished the physical course in 6 hours, and took an
additional amount of
time to reach pulse criteria....

They had not finished the course in six hours as they had
not met criteria. Meeting criteria is part of the course.
Yes, they finished the trail but not the ride. The rationale
as stated then allows six hours and thirty minutes to
completion. I am sorry but our rules say six hours for
twenty five miles.

Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steph
Teeter
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:30 PM
To: Jim Holland
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders


The original rationale for the proposed change was to find a
way to allow LD
competitors 6 hours to complete the event, but not
disqualify riders that
finished the physical course in 6 hours, and took an
additional amount of
time to reach pulse criteria. This change would enable that
since their ride
time is calculated based upon when they cross the finish
line, not when the
pulse criteria is met. If the BC forms for LD were also
changed, to specifiy
that the pulse time was to be used, not the ride time, would
it then be an
acceptable (or  desirable) rule change?

Steph



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Holland [mailto:lanconn@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:11 PM
To: steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders


Steph...

OK, I'll bite...what is the rationale from the proposer for
making the
change?  Statistical?  Easier for the Ride Manager? Why
would we want to
base BC score on THAT time instead of placement time?  I
must be missing
something here...

Jim, Sun of Dimanche, and Mahada Magic

Steph Teeter wrote:
>
> I have a question for you guys:
>
> One of the AERC directors is proposing a Rules change to
LD, where the LD
> rider's finish time would be determined by when they cross
the finish
line,
> rather than when the horse's pulse reaches criteria. In
this proposal the
> placement (first, second, third, etc) of each competitor
would then be
> determined separately by when their horse's pulse reaches
criteria.
>
> So your ride time would be determined by when you cross
the finish line.
> This is the time that would be published in AERC results,
PNER results,
etc,
> and this is the time that would be used to calculate BC
scores.
>
> But placement is entirely different - it is determined by
when the horse
> reached criteria.
>
> I would love to hear some opinions on this -
>
> Steph
>
>
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