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 While the citizenship requirement was not discussed 
(or at least I don't recall it), many of us discussed our disapproval of the 
elimination of family memberships at great length, and in general voiced our 
disapproval of the complete reworking of the membership system.  Since 
my own regional director is the list owner here, she is quite well aware 
of what we've shared in this forum.  Apparently our directors chose 
not to heed our input.  Fine.  Our next step is a no vote.  
That's how the system works. 
  
BTW, other than this one issue, I have no 
complaints about the changes.  Too bad the BoD has spoiled some outstanding 
work with one major blooper.  I sincerely hope that the bylaws change will 
be defeated, and that the BoD will realize that it is due to one issue, and that 
they will resubmit the other changes without the substantial alteration to the 
membership categories. 
  
Heidi 
  
  
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:19 
  AM 
  Subject: RE: [RC] Proposed Bylaws - 
  Removing Family Membership & Citizenship require... 
  
  
  It 
  is interesting to note that the revised By-laws have been on line since April 
  and were published in the EN in May. Mike Maul and I went on line to Ride Camp 
  and other venues and solicited comments at that time. I believe that less than 
  four persons responded.  Every one has had all summer to express a 
  request for changes and modifications that could have been attended to at the 
  Mid Year Board Meeting.  
    
  So, 
  If you did not discuss this with your Regional Directors and/or your 
  Directors-at-Large I do not believe you have a chance in hell of changing 
  things now. 
    
  Bob 
    
  Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID 
   
  
    In a message dated 
    10/8/2002 9:11:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    writes:
 
  
    Do we  have to vote for the bylaw changes as an entire 
      entity, or can we vote for or against particular 
    segments? 
  Apparently it is all or nothing - which bothers us a 
    LOT. It will hit home with teh RMs and rides themselves, as people may 
    choose not to take that extra horse or rider to a ride because they end up 
    being a higher cost factor ride after ride OR year after year. Bad enough in 
    MY mind that "new members" get a discount - but now those who have supported 
    AERC and the events for years get socked yet again. When I see the renewal 
    form, I think, "why do new members get a nice little discount and we are 
    paying full price", and now perhaps full price PER CAPITA? Why not encourage 
    both NEW memberships and SUSTAINED memberships by not only keeping the 
    family discount but dropping the fee for that second member, not just 3rd 
    and subsequent. I for one don't want to decide YEARLY which of oru family of 
    four will be members depdning on who will ride enough rides to make it worth 
    it. I paid full rate in 2001 and 2002 and was not able to ride because of 
    illness. I didn't feel the sustaining payment without worth since it 
    supports AERC, a very good organization. But I will not do so in the future 
    without the family discount. Why would I? What does everyone else 
    think? S   
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