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Heidi,
I don't think there is a real difference of opinion here ....as I stated in
the original post, endurance is an honor system sport - that includes the
competitors and the management. I would assume that in the example you
use, the management would not count the rider as an entrant...if a rider is
bucked off or leaves the equine involuntarily at roll call, or even at the very
beginning of a controlled start before actually leaving the start (still in
line), then management could make a judgement call, not count them as a
starter, and not be guilty of a violation. AERC allows much gray area
in the interpretation of some of our rules, since we are discussing Rule 6, note
this gray area in AERC Rules (excerpt from Aug 2002, EN Rules Committee
Article)
6.1 A competitor must pass all veterinary criteria for completion;
a
competitor who fails any of the other completion criteria should be
pulled
from Top Ten placing but may be allowed a completion, if in the
opinion of
ride management, the violation was not intentional and did not
result in
making the course easier or shorter.
**READ THIS AGAIN!!! 6.1 states there is no leeway with respect to
the
veterinary criteria! However, at the discretion of the ride management,
an
entrant can receive a completion even if they have violated any of the
other
listed completion criteria. This includes being lost, riding the
incorrect
trail or loops, or even being over time. The key is the violation
must not
be intentional, and must not make the course easier or shorter. As
an
example, an entrant that stops to help an injured rider, and
subsequently
ends up being 15 minutes overtime, may at the discretion of the
ride
management, be allowed a completion. On the other hand, a rider who
just
rides slow and is over time should not be allowed a completion. In all
cases
where this rule allows for a completion, the entrant MUST BE REMOVED
FROM
TOP TEN PLACING**
Randy
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:08:18 -0600 "Heidi Smith" < heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
writes: > I think there is some misinterpretation here. An
"entrant" still > has not > necessarily started. > I've
been to rides where there was a roll call and someone who > checked
in > subsequently got bucked off and injured prior to the actual
start. > They > have not been listed as "started" and pulled,
but rather as did not > start--something that AERC does not even ask for
on the ride result > sheet. > And that sort of thing doesn't seem
to be an issue. The rule > applies to the > concept that
before you can start, first you have to be an entrant. > And
you > must become an entrant prior to the actual start of the ride.
> That's all. > | 