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    Re: [RC] Ice up... - Lisa Redmond


    Ah--thanks for the clarification.  Still not something I'd recommend,
    though.
    
    A horse with an ice fetish????  Hmm.....
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Joe Long" <jlong@xxxxxxx>
    To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 3:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [RC] Ice up...
    
    
    > On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:12:22 -0400, Lisa Redmond
    > <lredmond23@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >
    > >This might be a stupid question, but how can shoving ice in an animal's
    > >rectum be considered the same as giving electrolytes?  Strikes me as
    being a
    > >little on the cruel side, actually.  I know I wouldn't want someone
    shoving
    > >ice up MY butt to bring down my body temperature or slow my respirations.
    I
    > >know some folks are going to counter with "but the large intestine is a
    > >major site of water absorption, so it's another way of rehydrating"...but
    > >purely from a nutritionist's point of view I still have to look at that
    one
    > >sideways.  Electrolytes are replacing critical minerals in a way that is
    > >both natural and not prone to shocking the system.  A rectum full of ice
    is
    > >NOT a natural way to bring down body temp nor is it a natural method of
    > >rehydrating an animal.  Plus, if vets are using body temp as a criterion
    for
    > >recovery, that's as bad as a kid holding a thermometer under hot tap
    water
    > >to convince mom he has a temp and shouldn't go to school.
    >
    > It's not a stupid question at all.  I'll try to answer.
    >
    > Ice is nothing but frozen water, a completely natural substance.  AERC
    > has no rule against putting ice in either end of the horse.
    >
    > These were small smooth pieces, about the size of walnuts.  Kahlil
    > didn't seem to mind; he might have even liked it!
    >
    > It wasn't done to lower his body temperature (a handful isn't enough
    > to do that), or to fool a thermometer.  In fact, they weren't taking
    > temperatures.  I took his rectal temperature myself prior to using the
    > ice, to be sure he was below 103 degrees.  As I understand it, the ice
    > "fools" the body and stops the panting.  It's quite temporary.  The
    > ride vet understood this; that's why he said "He's bringing his
    > horse's respiration down" not "he's cooling off his horse."
    >
    > I do not advocate using ice as a normal means to cool a hot horse, or
    > even using this method to stop panting.  Actually, I normally don't
    > want to stop panting, it is helping him cool himself.  I used this
    > trick on this one occasion to avoid what I believed to be a very
    > stupid policy from getting us pulled when Kahlil was perfectly OK.
    >
    >
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    [RC] Ice up..., Steve Shaw
    Re: [RC] Ice up..., Lisa Redmond
    Re: [RC] Ice up..., Joe Long