Ridecamp: Re: [RC] [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series

Actually what probably needs clarification is the role of Canada in the AERC.
We have had directors from Canada so I assume that Canada is a full partner
in the AERC. Although the AERC is incorporated in the US, it is a binational
organization. In that case "foreign" would have to exclusive of both the
US and Canada. In which case the rule would not apply. 

For the purpose of FEI they have their own national federations so that does
fuzz it up a bit. 

Consider the following situation. Puerto Rico has is a part of the US, although
not a state. Puerto Rico citizens are citizens of the US. There could be
endurance rides in Puerto Rico at some time in the future. However, Puerto
Rico has its own equestrian federation and sends its own teams to the Olympics,
world championships, etc. Now if the situation with the ride in Canada was
in Puerto Rico how would rule 8.4 apply? ?Would Puerto Rico, although part
of the US, be considered a "foreign country" by the AERC for the purpose
of rule 8.4? I see no difference between the ride in question being in Puerto
Rico or Canada. 

Truman

Steph Teeter wrote:

The BOD had some discussion of this rule earlier. Depending upon how you parse the sentence, you? may have two different interpretations:

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(FEI rides or endurance rides) in a foreign country

vs

FEI rides or (endurance rides in a foreign country).

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The intent of the rule was the?second interpretation. Needs a little clarification though -

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Steph

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-----Original Message-----
From: Truman Prevatt [mailto:tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series

My question is, "is or is not Canada come under the AERC unbrella?" If Canada does come under the AERC, then as far as the AERC is concerned does Canada fit the definition of "foreign country" in this rule? ?Yes Canadians carry Canadian passports - not US passports. On the other hand the AERC states that they are the "sanctioning body for endurance in the US and Canada."? In this case I do not read rule 8.4 to include Canada as a "foreign country,"? since it is within the perview of the AERC. I would read the defineition of "foreign country" to ?all countries other than the US and Canada (the two countires covered by the AERC). Would the AERC recogonize a non sanctioned (even if somehow it managed to get FEI sanctioning) ride if it were run in the US?

I am not sure I see it back and white here.?

John A. Teeter wrote:

8.4 Career mileage credit only for AERC members and equines who participate in FEI rides or endurance rides in a foreign country at least 50 miles long and sanctioned by an AERC recognized organization.

from the rules....

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Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series

Pan Am was not run in conjuction with an AERC ride and the Pan Am did not request AERC sanctioning and denied such sanctioning.

That's where I see the difference.

Truman

Steph Teeter wrote:

Truman - mileage?(but no points) is awarded to riders who complete the Pan Americans (in Canada, Vermont, etc). - why would this be different?

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Steph