Re: RC: Re: Re:Racism....WHO ME?????

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Hi Pat 
As I point of interest, I NEVER made that statement in the first place
and your mistake of writing to me as if I had has led to others sending
me mail implying that I have a racist attitude and I don't and I doubt
that the sender of the original message who used the term "wetback" (and
if she has been reading this mail I'm certain she is sorry she did) is a
racist either. Perhaps if you had just sent a little message to her
privately saying that you doubt she is a racist but her use of that
term...yadda, yadda, yadda this hoopla would never have happened and
people would not mistakenly believe I have an attitude toward Mexicans,
etc. Let's all assume the best about people and not make them look small
in front of a forum (which is what I've seen a lot of unfortunately
these last several days). What is it that Bush said? We need to become a
kinder and gentler people?
Cheers- and please let this be an end to this.
Bette Lamore

superpat wrote:
> 
> Dear Bette,
> You make my point exactly. Especially because we care we need to be
> sensitive and aware of the things we may utter that are offensive and, yes,
> racist. I will not even bother to list (but I'll bet that if you stop to
> consider, you can) some of the phrases that have become a common part of our
> conversational dialog that have their genesis in ethnocentrism and racism.
> And one way to help is to call it when we see it and to fess up when we are
> made aware of our (though unaware) contributing to the continuation and
> condoning of such statements and attitudes. So, please see your being called
> on that statement as a truly positive sign that we are all approaching a
> time when this conversation will not be necessary. I, for one am heartened
> that we, of such diverse backgrounds, interests and experiences can care
> enough about each other to engage in civil and honest exploration of one sad
> dimension of our "national heritage".
> Pat Super
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>
> To: <RDShoe4U@aol.com>; <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 9:58 AM
> Subject: RC: Re:Racing
> 
> > Dear RD
> > Hey hold on cowboy! (or cow woman? no, I'm not slamming cow persons
> > either). I never used any term. I was the receiver of the message and I
> > don't believe the sender is a racist anymore than me-- just an
> > unfortunate choice of words in an emotionally charged matter-- people
> > had mistreated her horse. Before anyone starts calling anyone a racist I
> > think he or she should settle down and check on the facts. If you knew
> > me you'd laugh at your message to me. We happen to be Caucasian; one
> > daughter is dating a causasian/Black youth and the other is dating a
> > WASP/Mexican youth and our son is now up in Canada visiting his Tibetan
> > girlfriend and our secretary of many years was of Mexican descent and
> > several of our trainers have been from Mexico or their parents were. If
> > anything I am prejudiced towards Mexicans (or the politically correct
> > term Latin-Americans or whatever) because I've found their rapport with
> > my horses to USUALLY be far superior to most of the "gringo" trainers
> > I've had. Kind of like Blacks and dancing (ever try to dance like
> > Michael Jackson?) or like Belgiums and their chocolates, huh Leo? Let's
> > just stop all this nonsense now and wish everyone a happy new year. If
> > we care about our horses as much as we do, I doubt anyone on ridecamp is
> > a racist. I choose to believe that until proven wrong.
> > Bette Lamore
> >
> > RDShoe4U@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Just wondering if you use the N word to describe African-Americans also
> ? I
> > > work daily with Mexicans in the horse industry some of which are very
> good
> > > horseman.Myself I think it takes alot of courage to leave your home
> often
> > > thousands of miles away to make a living.I am not saying that all are
> good
> > > but they like your horses deserve to be treated as an individule not
> lump
> > > into a group and stereo typed.It surprises me as many convsations as we
> have
> > > had on here about "breed prejudice" that someone who have the gull to
> say
> > > something like that.Just my thoughts. RD
> >
> >
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