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Re: [RC] re: Parkes proposal # 4 - Howard Bramhall

The problem with confidentiality is it will eliminate one of the best
sources of information about how the horse was ridden during the ride.  The
rider's statement should be a part of the package; if we must we could omit
the rider's name when published in Endurance News.  By not having a rider's
statement the full story of what happened at the ride will not be told.

Do we really need to protect the rider, with confidentiality, when it's the
horse we are trying to protect?  Do you think that the rider's name won't
get out there, via the underground rumor windmill, anyway?  It will; it has,
and it will continue to be.  The best protection for the rider is his/her
explanation of what happened.  Otherwise, someone else will write that part
of the story for them.  Which version of the truth would you rather read?

None of these statements should be voluntary.  They should be required, by
all involved, within a reasonable time (2 weeks to 30 days).  If the
statements are not provided there should be an automatic suspension from
participating in AERC rides to those who refuse to provide them.

This is a serious issue and needs to be dealt with in such a manner.  To
dance around it with lawyers leading the band does a disservice to the horse
and our organization.  Direct, open, and up front is the best course of
action here.  Get it all out in the open so we can proudly say to the world,
"We have nothing to hide."

cya,
Howard


----- Original Message -----
From: "Teresa Van Hove" <vanhove@xxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:46 PM
Subject: [RC] re: Parkes proposal # 4



Well  I like the confidentiality.  I think the thought of anyone being
able to get all the reports and possibly attack you for a horse death
from a horse got into the feed room and colic'd, or horse ran thru a
fence, ... or something else totatlly unrelated to having ridden an
endurance ride a few weeks ago could lead to fear and and doubt and
unwillingness to comply.  Lack of confidentiality could also make
witnesses reluctant to provide statements in some situations where
there perhaps was mismanagement of the horse by the rider or owner
related to the  endurance ride.

 The vet committees report gets published in EN under Parkes proposal.


    D.  The official Veterinary Committee report on any horse fatality

received by the Board be made available to

members on request (with any appropriate copying charge) and be

published in Endurance News.


 If those reports are inadequate then all of AERC will know it and can
demand better.  If a member feels the vet committee report was unfair
to them, they can submit their side of the story and request any other
witnesses to also voluntarily publish their statements.  All AERC
memebers on this list should carefully read the full propasal
themselves and comment to their BOD members.  I know I hope the
proposal passes and I emailed my support of it to BOD.

Teresa



Jim Holland wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



    C.  All witness statements collected by the AERC for purposes of

reporting on horse fatalities, including

statements from the head veterinarian, treating veterinarian, ride

manager and rider and/or owner, be immediately

transmitted to the AERC Veterinary Committee for its review, but

otherwise be held in confidence; and




  THIS part, IMHO, is totally unacceptable...

  THIS MEANS ONLY THE VET COMMITTEE WILL KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! THE
  ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP SHOULD BE AWARE OF ALL THE FACTS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE
  IT, DON'T RIDE!! IMHO, THIS FIXES NOTHING AND SIMPLY LEADS TO FEAR,
  UNCERTAINTY AND DOUBT.


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