Re: Re: [Re: Smoke and Mirrors]

["Laura Hayes" <mark@madbbs.com>]

I have started to compose a message regarding this situation, several times. Each time, I thought better of it and stopped.  I guess I have too much time on my hands today, and am feeling brave - though at the risk of being called "moron" "bitch" "liar"  and all the other terms I have seen TI call those that disagree with him.

 

This issue has become a complete joke.  TI obviously has nothing but alot of horse shit, and maybe it is time we all got on with our lives and forget this man who has insulted and abused us.  It is a shame, because I think there were alot of good ideas in his past - we trained race horses very successfully using his training guidelines in the 1980's, but it seems he has gone off the deep end and maybe we should just let him be.  Thank goodness he is no longer posting his rants and tirades that had become vicious and demeaning to even those of us who were not targeted specifically.

 

I feel badly for those of you who have gotten dragged into this, and to those he has attacked.  I, for one, am going riding, and will no longer associate myself with those that make me feel like TI does, no matter how brilliant they may be underneath.

 

Laura

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: SandyDSA@aol.com

To: ridecamp@endurance.net

Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:33 AM

Subject: RC: Re: [Re: Smoke and Mirrors]

At the risk of REPEATING MYSELF - why is this continuing to be thrown at us
as public fodder? I can't imagine its correlation to endurance, nor can I
comprehend its pertinence to the public. Contrarily, it ought to be VERY
private.
JMHO.
s
p.s. Tom, you PROMISED to go away - you promised!
desertbred@usa.net writes:

Subj:RC: Re: [Re: Smoke and Mirrors]
Date:6/14/01 8:26:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:    desertbred@usa.net (EDIE BOOTH)
To:    Tivers@aol.com
CC:    GrandPaws@cs.com, ridecamp@endurance.net, OasisArab@aol.com,
Teddy@runningbear.com


Tom----irrespective of all your verbiage, it does look a little odd.  I was
told Cliff wired money in good faith, without knowing Heidi, on May 25.  I
have asked you twice to let me know about getting an account established if
you are not comfortable with the Idaho account where Cliff's money is. I got
no response about my offer to set up an account and sending you the routing
and account number. I asked for an immediate reponse on that query, without
an
answer.  I do not want to go to the trouble of setting up an account for you
to ignore.  I do not want these funds in my personal account.

I have not heard from Bill's ride manager.  To what do I owe that?  I have
corresponded a couple of times with Bill who said the RM would call-------?
Why would Heidi Smith be called and not the person on the scene?  Couldn't I
prove the truth for Bill much easier?  What is the problem here?

If one party wired the money, why can't the original bettor?  I am ready to
start investigating.

Edie   

Tivers@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 6/13/01 7:45:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
GrandPaws@cs.com

writes:

<< Tom,

I suppose you have no money and no proof. The laws of magic hold true--all
smoke and mirrors.

I'll honor my bet until friday a.m. (June 15).

I'll be watching for you on that fast horse.

Cliff >>


My guess is that I make more in a week than you make in a month, Pard. And
I
don't earn my money by being stupid or telling lies. I'm good for my word
and

always have been. Money is not the problem and time is not a
problem--except


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