Re: RC: New Foals in Cold Weather

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Hi Karen
I know the dose. Dr. Elliott said to give full adult dose to babies as
they are far more likely to pick up worms. Actually Kit Calafato was the
original one who told me to full dose babies and Dr. Elliot confirmed,
and remember, if there was one thing Matt knew it was breeding and
babies (his specialty area and he graduated from 2 vet schools in that
field--a perpetual student). It will be interesting to see if there are
recent studies to the contrary.
Bette

Karen Clanin wrote:
> 
> gee, betty, dose is 'sposed to be 1 cc per 110 lbs, you're dosing babies
> with 1,100 lb dose!  it is safe, like heidi says, but that seems like a lot
> once a month.  be interesting to see what she says.
> 
> yes, it is a lot cheaper than the paste, matt elliot got me using it years
> ago.  i give it orally since it stings so badly to inject, not to mention
> the potential for abcesses.
> 
> karen
> 
> At 06:00 PM 12/30/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi Heidi
> >I do all that, too; however we have very extreme temp changes. It can be
> >over 80 in the day and then go down to 40 at night. My foals are all
> >outside in the fresh air--I'm afraid of that ammonia, too, no matter how
> >often you clean the stall.  What I've found works best for weaning is
> >that I have all the moms and babies together and then take away one mom
> >at a time. Seems to work. I haven't had a case of pneumonia in the last
> >7 yrs but then I foal either earlier than June (unless I have a mare who
> >has taken forever to get in foal) and I worm full dose for babies with
> >Ivermectin  (10 cc Ivermec for cattle--not the Plus--same as Zymectin
> >but a whole lot cheaper) every month. Hasn't seem to hurt them and no
> >one is ever sick. I do that until they are at least 8mos (a year if they
> >seem small) and then every other month. Any thoughts? Am I over killing
> >on the wormer? I appreciate your feedback.
> >Bette
> >
> >CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/30/99 1:56:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >> woa@stormnet.com writes:
> >>
> >> << My only problem with foaling times have been foaling out late summer.
> >>  What happens is that the foals are healthy until they are put through
> >>  the stress of weaning.  By then they have received both series of shots;
> >>  however, the hot days combined with the cold nights of fall have caused
> >>  several of them to get foal pneumonia. Because of that, I myself prefer
> >>  to foal out earlier; the weaning time appears to be more critical to me
> >>  weather wise than the foaling time. Anyone else have this experience? >>
> >>
> >> I've had clients who've had that experience, but those who do all wean into
> >> stalls, and the change to the dust from the shavings and the ammonia is
> more
> >> of a factor, IMO.  We try to have most of our foals in May or June, and
> don't
> >> mind them later (5 Junes and an August due next year)--have never had a
> sick
> >> baby at weaning.  But then we usually leave the babies in the familiar
> >> environment and take the mommies away, and many times they don't even
> seem to
> >> miss their moms.
> >>
> >> Heidi
> >>
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