Re: RC: Re: Re: green horses and CTR

[Teddy Lancaster <Teddy@runningbear.com>]

Sorry, the fitter they get, the worse they get.

Back to basics in a round pen.  Manners first. A horse MUST learn respect for
YOUR space.

Teddy

Dyane Smith wrote:

> On average, how long does it take for a horse to calm down?  Chelle Sherman
> talked about the value of being able to lead an overexcited horse.  I,
> myself, have never been convinced it was that safe for me to try to lead a
> horse who was doing airs above my head.  On the other hand, Suni never had
> to SEE the horses in front, he KNEW (smelled whatever) they were there and
> that he should be in front.
>     I had heard that the best way to start was with a slow 50 miler.  Given
> that I am still not sure about the slow part if you are also a newbie, what
> is the general consensus?
> Dyane
> and Fox, the ex-race horse, waiting for his chance....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: GESA BRINKS <gesaeqfx@pe.net>
> To: Chelle Sherman <cms@fluent.com>; <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 11:14 PM
> Subject: RC: Re: green horses and CTR
>
> > Except for the leading/not leading part, you just described the average
> > endurance ride. <bg>    In a CTR, ya just gotta use your brain more.
> > gesa n clovis
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chelle Sherman <cms@fluent.com>
> > To: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 11:01 AM
> > Subject: RC: green horses and CTR
> >
> >
> > >I'm sure it depends on the CTR, and the area where it is held, but I
> > >have had the pleasure of starting two green horses in CTR and I feel the
> > >format makes it quite difficult for the horse to stay calm. All the
> > >horses are basically clumped together, many are quite fast at the start,
> > >and as another ridecamper mentioned, most can see another horse in front
> > >of them that they want to catch. Pacing is very difficult when you are
> > >caught in a pack of riders on horses. It's sort of like be sucked into a
> > >vortex and spit out the other end 30 miles later! You can pull over and
> > >try to let them go by, but another pack usually follows close behind.
> > >Furthermore, if your horse does get overexcited, you can't get off and
> > >lead for awhile (without disqualifying yourself). The water stops tend
> > >to be very crowded, especially at the start of the ride. You can try to
> > >arrange to go last, but my experience with this is that my horse knew
> > >she was last, and got more and more frantic as the horses left camp. You
> > >can bet that she was ready to go when we finally hit the trail. I have
> > >also found on CTRs that many riders don't obey the rules about letting
> > >everybody in a group drink before they start down the trail, and letting
> > >everybody get to the bottom of the hill before trotting or cantering
> > >off. If you're unfortunate enough to be at the back of the pack, you can
> > >end the ride with a very sore and thirsty horse. My point in all this is
> > >not to bash CTRs - I really enjoy them and support them wholeheartedly.
> > >It's just that if you're going to do them with a green horse, it may not
> > >be as calm and easy an experience as you think. At least with endurance,
> > >you can leave camp when you want - let the whole pack leave and then go
> > >out. You can get off and walk when you need to, and you have the option
> > >of going much slower if you want to. I plan to do a short CTR with my
> > >new green horse late this Fall, and I think I've learned my lesson:
> > >train in groups before competing, teach pace control, and plan to ride
> > >with a buddy who has a calm horse and a similar game plan.
> > >
> > >Chelle and Mystik Star
> > >
> > >
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