Re: Mare has accepted its foal

["arikara appaloosas" <arikaras@iafrica.com>]

Hi Melanie,
Thanks will  try this sometime as soon as I can walk again properly instead
of hobbling about.
I have heard of John Lyons,know more about Monty Roberts methods as this is
how I train my young horses.
Would love to get my hands on some of John Lyons books or tapes.
When I bought this Schneider mare,she attacked my trainner,who then managed
to ruin her back legs with ropes and she also damanaged her mouth,that was
the last time I ever used that trainner.I bought two of these wild mares
Talari I did not let the trainner touch as she was my horse.I used the old
Indian method with her,wore her down with my constant presence and sang to
her continuously ,it worked with her I can do anything with her,all it took
was time and patience.She Talari accepted me unconditionally.Unfortunately
for the other mare Scharabi she lost her faith in humans.I can catch her
though using the same methods as I did with Talari,once caught she is Ok to
handle by me.
I dont think she meant to kick me,I was leading her to the stable and her
foal started following my husband Robert,I should of held her short but was
also carring a bucket of feed.She got agitated with the foal following Rob
and went ballistic,and here I sit with three lovely kick marks on
me.Bruised to hell and gone as well.
So she had enough space to swing around and kick me good and proper,the
last time the silly horse managed to kick my wrist to pieces.I do seem to
be in the wrong place at the wrong time all the time.*sheepish grin*
Will continue working with untill  she trust s me completely.I have found
that when cornered these Schneider horses are deadly,a horse will either
flee or attack this mare will attack you.

Any ideas where I can get hold of some John Lyons videos or books.
Thanks for your advice.
Regards
kathy
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> From: Horsestwo@aol.com
> To: arikaras@iafrica.com
> Subject: Re: Mare has accepted its foal
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 8:39 PM
> 
> I've got to put my 2 cents worth in here about your mare hurting you.  I
know
> you say she is wild but if you plan to keep her and breed her then you
> shouldn't keep putting yourself in danger.  Have you ever heard of the
> trainer, John Lyons?  He has done symposiums all over the world on his
methods
> of conditioned response training.  He uses a round pen to take wild,
spoiled,
> rogue or just everyday untrained (the majority) horses of any age and
teach
> them to be safe, dependable riding horses.  You don't need to have a
round pen
> as the lessons can be taught in a small corral but it is helpful.  His
methods
> are so wonderful because he has thought out how a horse learns (what
motivates
> it to change its behavior) and explains how YOU can do it, too.  His
three
> main rules to evaluate a training method are 1) Can I get hurt? 2) Can
the
> horse get hurt? 3) Will the horse be calmer at the end of the lesson than
at
> the beginning?  
> 
> I don't have the time to convince you just how incredible these methods
are
> for teaching everything from ground manners, leading, loading into
trailers,
> how to handle "spooky" situations,etc.etc.  If you can get your hands on
his
> book "Lyons on Horses" or any of his video tapes it could help keep you
from
> letting that mare hurt you again.  You or any human are more important
than
> the most valuable horse but it is YOUR responsibility to make the horses
you
> own safer to be around.  The John Lyons methods are the best at getting
that
> done.  If you are interested but can't find the books or tapes over there
let
> me know and I will try to find a way to get them to you.  That's how much
I
> believe in these teaching methods!  Good luck and be careful.
> 
> Melanie in Arizona, USA