Re: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #736
Diane Notarianni (Diane.Notarianni@NAU.EDU)
Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:08:29 -0700
ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net wrote:
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 736
>
> Today's Topics:
> Re: digest [ Lauren Horn <fourhorn@fea.net> ]
> Re spam [ paddi <seamstob@telusplanet.net> ]
> [Fwd: Re: Sore sides] [ Lynne Glazer <lglazer@cyberg8t.com> ]
> 900 LINE ENTERTAINMENT!!! [ pager@drlr.com ]
> Re: removing ride numbers [ Cyberpony@aol.com ]
> For sale-Does it all Arab (VA) [ "Sally Aungier"<aungish@unos.org> ]
> ERA Horse Quilt Winner [ paddi <seamstob@telusplanet.net> ]
> Panting [ guest@endurance.net ]
> Re:magazine racks and riding! [ Trishmare@aol.com ]
> Gooseneck Hitches [ guest@endurance.net ]
> Re: Sore sides [ AliFarr@aol.com ]
> digest format [ Steph Teeter <step@fsr.com> ]
> saddle pads: syn-felt; Marciante [ Laney Humphrey <laneyh@mbay.net> ]
> Re:magazine racks and riding! [ "Glenda R. Snodgrass" <grs@thenetef ]
> sore sides; soap residue [ Laney Humphrey <laneyh@mbay.net> ]
> Temperature [ Tivers@aol.com ]
> Re: ridecamp-d Digest 732 [ TrailTales@aol.com ]
> Re: Chevy truck transmissions [ Phnatasha@aol.com ]
> Re: Temperature [ "Joe Long" <jlong@mti.net> ]
> Your Success Guaranteed! [ net@venus.gmds.com ]
> update on Sareei's epm [ nevadaghostridr@webtv.net (L Eisele ]
> Tevis Christmas Party [ Larry Suddjian <wstf@foothill.net> ]
> Endurance in South Africa [ "Rob & Kathy Dobrowsky" <arikaras@i ]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:27:19 -0800
> From: Lauren Horn <fourhorn@fea.net>
> To: PATTISAM@aol.com
> CC: ridecamp-d@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: digest
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> PATTISAM@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi - could you please check - I seem to be having trouble with the list - not
> > sure. I haven't been getting many for about a week.
>
> Yes, It seems to have slowed down.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:36:58 -0800
> From: paddi <seamstob@telusplanet.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re spam
> Message-ID: <3469326A.5FBC@telusplanet.net>
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> I think that these spam buy this buy that ads are from people who think
> we are all rich<g>. I subscribe to 3 other lists non horse and no spam
> there.
> Paddi
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:20:05 -0800
> From: Lynne Glazer <lglazer@cyberg8t.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Sore sides]
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> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:52:30 -0500 (EST)
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> To: Lynne Glazer <lglazer@cyberg8t.com>
> From: Barbara Madill <madill@teleplex.net>
> Subject: Re: Sore sides
>
> At 09:34 PM 11/10/97 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi, Barbara,
>
> >and I can report that she doesn't have "busy legs"! Her mare is a big
> >moving TB.
> >
> >Who did you get the Syn Felt stuff from? Always interested in a better
> >way to do things.
> >
> >Lynne
> >Rem-member Me
> >and Celesteele, the new kid
> >
> >
> Having a REALLY good and knowledgeable friend to critique one's
> riding is, of course the BEST!!! Unfortunately such are hard to find, hence
> my suggestion regarding the impartiality of the video camera.
>
> "Big mover" may be the operative phrase. Teaching the mare to hold
> a balanced pace where all of her muscles are used more or less equally
> (impossible, I know, but I think you know what I'm aiming at) might help.
>
> State Line Tack 1-800-228-9208 (Western Catalog) carries four sizes
> of their 30" x 30" Syn-Felt blanket liner. 1/4" through 1" with main
> catalog prices from $10.90 through $34.90. Right now only the 5/8" and 1"
> are on "sale" in their coupon flyer.
>
> I was introduced to this product by a western trainer who had me
> purchase the 1" pad. It was impossible to wash in washer and was too thich
> for all but one of my horses. He traded with me for a Marciante pad (see
> comment below) that he didn't like. Great trade because the Marciante pad
> is at least $50.00.
>
> The 5/8" Syn-Felt CAN be washed in washer.
>
> I like the 3/8" -- can use two if needed or combine with other padding
>
> I think there may be a textural difference between the white and
> black pads resulting in a slightly coarser edge on the black. While I do
> most of my everyday schooling on my rib sprung mare using the black, with no
> bad effects that I can detect, I use the white on a competition.
>
> The Marciante pad is shaped for an endurance saddle (the one that
> Marciante makes, of course). It is 30 x 30, except shaped for round skirts.
> The horse side is synthetic fleece, the upper side upholstery fabric with a
> Velcro fastener down the center of the back. It has two 5/8 surgical
> mattress pads inserted into each "pocket" (the result is a bit on the idea
> of the Ortho paneling, though, of course, not fixed to the saddle.)
> Marciante advertises in Equus -- if you don't subscribe to it, write back
> and I'll look up the address.
>
> I found an Army Navy surplus store with 1/2" mattresses and made
> various shims as necessary to accomodate different horses. I also made a
> black Dressage pad with insert pockets using black fleece and a heavy black
> twill I found at a fabric outlet. The trick to making one is to make sure
> your inserts are evenly balanced and don't leave enough gap at the back to
> put pressure as the saddle tends to push against the pads.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:52:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: pager@drlr.com
> To: pager@drlr.com
> Subject: 900 LINE ENTERTAINMENT!!!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:01:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: Cyberpony@aol.com
> To: grs@theneteffect.com
> cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: removing ride numbers
> Message-ID: <971112070135_-1476353819@mrin83.mail.aol.com>
>
> Try Skin-so-Soft. Let it sit for a while. Then scrape it off with a bot
> knife :-)
>
> SSS will also help remove adhesive from bandages too.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:59:31 -0500
> From: "Sally Aungier"<aungish@unos.org>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: For sale-Does it all Arab (VA)
> Message-ID: <8525654C.0068606D.00@GWIP01.unos.net>
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Sally Aungier
> 11/12/97 08:59 AM
>
> Posting for an acquaintance Please contact her directly if you are
> interested. This sounds like a nice mare for someone who wants a "do all"
> horse.
>
> For sale: 10 yr. old arabian mare. 14.1h., Egyptian (racing lines).
> Grey. Has competed in several horse trials (and won the intro/novice
> divisions). Jumps 3 ft. Big floating trot. Good on trails. Good
> disposition and manners. Owner has to many horses and no longer has time
> for her. $3000. She is located in Powhatan, VA, approximately 25 miles
> from Richmond. Contact owner Kathy Pitt at barn 804-598-3828 or home
> 804-598-2780.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:21:03 -0800
> From: paddi <seamstob@telusplanet.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: ERA Horse Quilt Winner
> Message-ID: <3469C95F.40F8@telusplanet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
> The ERA horse quilt winner was Jean Carruthers from Leduc Alberta.
> Thankyou to everyone who supported us in this raffle. Over $2300. was
> raised which has really given our small club a much needed boost in the
> bank account
> Paddi
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:50:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: guest@endurance.net
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Panting
> Message-Id: <199711121650.IAA18647@fsr.com>
>
> PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO GUEST@ENDURANCE.NET!!!
> You must post replies to the actual sender listed below.
>
> From: Christine Taylor
> Email: ctaylor174@aol.com
>
> It was suggested that you endurance riders might be able to help me with the problem my morgan horse has. He pants. Is there anything that
one can do about it
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:55:07 -0500 (EST)
> From: Trishmare@aol.com
> To: fourhorn@fea.net
> cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re:magazine racks and riding!
> Message-ID: <971112115506_1871671828@mrin38>
>
> In a message dated 97-11-11 21:42:02 EST, you write:
>
> << >
> > Dear Lauren, I'd also like a book/magazine rack for when I got bored
>
> BORED!! How could you get bored riding the trails on your handsome
> steed. ;-D >>
>
> Dear Lauren, thanks for the complement! David IS pretty, I'll grant anyone
> that--that's why I sign off "Trish & "pretty David"--but your Kyla is a real
> looker too, as I've told you! (gee, too bad David's a gelding--oh well, when
> pretty people get together, the kids always turn out ugly, too horses as nice
> looking as Kyla and David would probably have baby mules--).
> As to the other comment, sigh, alas and alack, there are not very many
> endurance riders near where I live. Or at least I've not yet met them. Most
> of the people around here ride big old tanky looking QHs and like to just
> amble on down the road or trail. Unless I ride by myself, a lot of times I
> have to put up with ambling on down the road at their pace. You know,
> staring at the same little bit of scenery for 15 minutes as it slides SLOWLY
> past!
> In fact, the way I got interested in endurance was from listening to my
> friends complain--"Trish you ride way to fast, how can you stand all that
> trotting, sheesh your poor horses, you really ought to try endurance riding
> if your just gonna go like that . . ."---well, it finally occured to me after
> getting increasing numbers of these complaints that I WAS RIDING WITH THE
> WRONG BUNCH!!! And here I am!--or will be, next year, when I have a trailer!
> But until then, could you please pass that magazine there . . .<g>
>
> Trish & "pretty David" (who is now demanding a mirror for his stall . . .)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:09:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: guest@endurance.net
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Gooseneck Hitches
> Message-Id: <199711121709.JAA21956@fsr.com>
>
> PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO GUEST@ENDURANCE.NET!!!
> You must post replies to the actual sender listed below.
>
> From: Jeff Wetherington
> Email: jwether@pnx.com
>
> I am thinking of installing a (hidden or fold down) gooseneck hitch in the bed of my 3/4 ton 97 chevy truck
> currently I have a gooseneck in the bed but it takes up too much room.
> My question is : Has anyone had problems with any of their hitches or
> really like a paticular brand or type.
> we tow a 3 horse slant load gooseneck steel trailer.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:12:18 -0500 (EST)
> From: AliFarr@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Sore sides
> Message-ID: <971112121217_1371574941@mrin84.mail.aol.com>
>
> <<
> Kristen L Olko wrote:
> >
> > Help me, please. My horse has started getting "sore sides" > Her back was
> rinsed today and the pad cover was clean. I use a capful of > Woolite when
> washing,
> > but only a single rinse. Any ideas?
>
> >>
>
> I have switched to the Bio-wash disks for all my laundry, including my saddle
> pads. These disks use ionization to lift the dirt out - no soap. I thought
> I was being stingy with the soap when I used to wash saddle pads, but the
> first two times I washed these pads with the disks, the wash water was still
> full of soap, leftover in the pads from previous washes. Yeech. I like the
> disks because there is no chance of irritating the horse's back with a soap
> product - one more thing I can rule out if there is a problem!
>
> Alison Farrin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:08:14 -0800
> From: Steph Teeter <step@fsr.com>
> To: "'ridecamp@endurance.net'" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: digest format
> Message-ID: <01BCEF4A.90F49E20@seahorse.fsr.com>
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>
> Ok, the new format isn't working for lots of you, so we're
> going to revert back to the old style - subject index at
> the top, all the messages in one page below that. It should
> be fixed by this afternoon.
>
> thanks for your patience!
>
> Steph
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:34:18 -0800
> From: Laney Humphrey <laneyh@mbay.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: saddle pads: syn-felt; Marciante
> Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971112093418.00730748@mbay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Lynn - I second your praise of Marciante's pads. I bought one to use with
> my Marciante saddle. I now use a DeSoto saddle but I still use my
> wonderful Marciante pad. He advertises in just about every horse magazine.
> Laney
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:21:48 -0600 (CST)
> From: "Glenda R. Snodgrass" <grs@theneteffect.com>
> To: Trishmare@aol.com
> cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re:magazine racks and riding!
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.971112111944.11540C-100000@consider.theneteffect.com>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> > if your just gonna go like that . . ."---well, it finally occured to me after
> > getting increasing numbers of these complaints that I WAS RIDING WITH THE
> > WRONG BUNCH!!! And here I am!--or will be, next year, when I have a trailer!
>
> Oh, yeah, me too! Lakota and I ride alone 4 days a week (twice a week we
> ride at a crawl with a friend who's just learning to ride) ... but now
> that we've got a trailer, I'm starting to think "Gee, I could haul him
> 100 miles over to Susan's or Charlene's for a training ride" :)
>
> Look out, girls, here we come!
>
> Glenda & Lakota (25 down, 1000s to go!)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:25:02 -0800
> From: Laney Humphrey <laneyh@mbay.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: sore sides; soap residue
> Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971112092502.0072fdc4@mbay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all - in another of my lives I'm a weaver/spinner. I've experimented
> with just about every technique for getting wool fleece clean. There is a
> chemical difference between soaps and detergents; many soaps are marketed
> as being gentler than detergents and many of them are in fact detergents.
> The reason is that detergents are really easier to deal with and actually
> do a better job of removing animal based fats (which hold the dirt).
> For years I've used plain old cheap hand dishwashing detergent (NOT
> DISHWASHER DETERGENT!!!) for washing fleece, dishes, dainty handwashables
> (like I own that many!). Soft water and heat are the other 2 necessities
> for getting fleece clean. Sheep's wool, horses' hair & hide and our hair &
> hide are not very different. When I wash my saddle pad cover, I use lots
> of hot water, just a dab of clothes detergent (don't try to use dishwashing
> detergent in your washing machine!) and I check the rinse water until it
> looks clean. If I can hear any crackly noises when I pick up and move the
> pad before putting it in the drying I know I need to rinse it again because
> there is more residue still in it. Hope this helps, Laney
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:46:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Temperature
> Message-ID: <971112174610_664136537@mrin47>
>
> Here's a data point for you on post -ex rectal temperatures. We've seen
> temperatures as high as 108 1/2 degrees, with no ill effects, in racehorses
> undergoing figorous training on hot days.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:06:18 -0500 (EST)
> From: TrailTales@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: ridecamp-d Digest 732
> Message-ID: <971112175206_1137903679@mrin52.mail.aol.com>
>
> Download did not come through -- neither did anything after about half (?)
> the index. No problem -- plenty of other mail -- but wanted you to know.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:26:44 -0500 (EST)
> From: Phnatasha@aol.com
> To: rjr@sonic.net, ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Chevy truck transmissions
> Message-ID: <971112180804_162019299@mrin54.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-11-12 18:06:33 EST, Phnatasha writes:
>
> << <<
> My next truck will be a souped up (in towing terms) Dodge Diesel with all
> the bells and whistles!
> >>
> I have a 91 Chevy 3/4 ton 350 with tow pkg... I lost my tranny at 90,000
> miles... so, after reading what you guys have gone thru... I don't feel sooo
> bad anymore... I had the tranny replaced and had a "Shift Kit" added on to it
> and an external cooler as well, and now I'm up to 123,000 miles and have not
> had a problem since... I pull a 2 horse slant, and have a 16 hand Arab and 16
> hand TB... my trailer is also loaded down with alot of campnig equipment...
> so, I imagine I'm towing about 6,000 # or better too... But, "Knock on
> Wood"... I'll continue to have good luck... can't afford my dream truck
> yet....
>
> I too want a new Dodge Diesel extended cab with cab doors and all the bells
> and whistles... but, not this year!
> Patti, with Robbie, Flare and Natasha in tow....
> >>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:45:21 GMT
> From: "Joe Long" <jlong@mti.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Temperature
> Message-ID: <346b3e1a.440760450@mail.mti.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:46:11 -0500 (EST), Tivers@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Here's a data point for you on post -ex rectal temperatures. We've seen
> >temperatures as high as 108 1/2 degrees, with no ill effects, in racehorses
> >undergoing figorous training on hot days.
>
> On a few hot, humid rides during Kahlil's career I got a rectal
> temperature (at a vet check) of 107 degrees. As the conventional
> wisdom at that time was that anything over 106 was potentially fatal,
> I used every means possible to cool him down. Once that was
> accomplished, I continued at a reduced pace and finished the rides
> with no ill effects.
>
> I suspect the amount of time the horse spends at an elevated
> temperature is a factor, as well. A horse may not be harmed by
> elevated temperatures of short duration, but I wouldn't want to run a
> horse for hours at a time at such elevated temperatures.
>
> --
>
> Joe Long
> jlong@mti.net
> http://www.mti.net Business
> http://www.rnbw.com Personal
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:04:04 -0800
> From: nevadaghostridr@webtv.net (L Eisele)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: update on Sareei's epm
> Message-Id: <199711130104.RAA03306@mailtod-101.bryant.webtv.net>
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> In 2 days Sareei will have finished 3 1/2 mos. on traditional
> treatment and also will continue with homeopathic supplements.
> He passed. with flying colors, a neurological exam at the vets
> yesterday with alittle weakness detected in his rear. There was a
> definite improvement over the neuro exam done when he was first
> diagnosed. The vet talked me out of doing a repeat spinal tap for epm
> as she said antibodies can stay in the spinal fluid after the parasite
> is eradicated for 6 mos. to a year later, so is not realiable. There
> are a few vets that are not aware of that and do spinals right after
> treatment which is usually +.
> Sareei is not to have any vaccines other than tetnas or rabies and
> now we wait and see if being off the medication will cause a relapse. I
> have to avoid any stress over the next year and may try only slow 25's
> during that time.
> Next I will get shoes back on him and gradually take him over uneven
> ground and see how he does. Dressage lessons are a must to strengthen
> the rear and he had a chiro adjustment to start things off right.
> So we may see you guys out there on the limited distance rides this
> summer if all goes well. I'm hoping. Mom needs to get back into riding
> shape herself. Didn't realize how weak ones legs can get when you stop
> riding for 3 mos.
> Want to thank everyone for all the kind thoughts over the last 4
> mos. Linda
>
> Linda Eisele & Sareei and
> hubby, Allen & the Iceman
> & the young Lakota
> nevadaghostridr@webtv.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:57:51 -0800
> From: Larry Suddjian <wstf@foothill.net>
> To: "endurance.net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Tevis Christmas Party
> Message-ID: <346A6CAE.5F719E06@foothill.net>
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> Attention all Western States Trail Foundation "The Tevis Cup 100 Miles
> One Day Ride" followers...
>
> Reservations are now being accepted for the 5th Annual TEVIS CHRISTMAS
> PARTY in Auburn on Saturday, December 13. The first 110 PAID
> reservations will be able to enjoy the most festive time one could ever
> imagine during the 1997 holiday season. The last four years have been a
> sell-out and proceeds received are rolled back into FOWSTA.
>
> Invitations have been mailed to entrants of the 1996 and 1997 Ride plus
> all members of FOWSTA. If you are not in this group, you should be.
> Check out our website at http://www.foothill.net/tevis for more
> particulars about FOWSTA or entry to the 1998 Ride.
>
> If you would like to reserve a place at the Christmas Party, contact us
> at wstf@foothill.net or telephone the WSTF office at 530/823-7282 or fax
> your request to 530/823-7901. The cost is $27 per person and a
> "no-host" bar will be provided. Lot's of raffle prizes will be
> available and if you want to donate a prize, let us know. ALL PROCEEDS
> GO TO FOWSTA AND THE SUPPORT OF THE WESTERN STATES TRAIL.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry Suddjian, Vice President and Ride Director
> Western States Trail Foundation
> 701 HigH Street, Suite 228C
> Auburn, CA 95603
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:57:20 +0200
> From: "Rob & Kathy Dobrowsky" <arikaras@iafrica.com>
> To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Endurance in South Africa
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> Hi to all,
> Have finally gone and done it,our web page should be ready in about a weeks
> time,am gathering articles,from vets,time keepers,and all manner of
> interesting information.The S.A endurance will be linked to our
> homepage.Cant wait to have this all up and running.Am waiting for pics of
> our National team and Provincial teams.Will let you all know when its up
> and running!
> Regards
> Kathy and Rob Dobrowsky
>
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> End of ridecamp-d Digest V97 Issue #736
> ***************************************I am looking for an endurance, dressage-type gently used saddle
preferably a County Competitor or Stubben. I need a 17 inch seat. It is
for average horse ( a 14.2h Morgan and a 15h 3/4 Arab both with very
good withers. How much should I expect to pay? Anyone out there selling?
Thanks-
Diane Notarianni