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From: gf@merkle.baaqmd.gov (Fend, Gary)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:55:08 pst
Subject: SF Bay Area Trail Trials
When the rain last June cancelled the endurance ride (Oakland Hills)
our club (Moraga Horsemen) puts on every year it left a huge hole in
our bank account.
In order to recoup some of our losses, we are putting on a Trail
Trials (Obstacle Ride) on August 26th. The ride will take place
around San Leandro Reservoir and the town of Moraga.
The ride is CSHA sanctioned and points go toward year end high point
awards.
For more information or an entry please contact:
Laura Fend 510-935-8147
or
Me at gf@merkle.baaqmd.gov
or
garyef@aol.com
Thanks and if we don't see you at the trail trials, I hope you can
make it to next year's Oakland Hills Ride!
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From: jsnyder@td2cad.intel.com
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:32:17 -0700
Subject: Re: Pt. Reyes Reservations
Thanks, Leslie, for getting us going on this. I am planning to
be there, unless Ron runs off somewhere else with the van at the last
minute. I have to remind him every other day about our Pt. Reyes
plans so he doesn't forget and commit to a boating expedition. If he
decides he doesn't want to go he can at least let me have the vehicle.
Our rig is a gray & white Chevy van with a small white 2-horse trailer.
Van license is "TAC RM"; trailer has one-piece wood tailgate.
My mount of choice will be a chestnut Peruvian Paso mare; Ron's horse
is a roan-dun Peruvian gelding. (If by chance I have trailer space,
I will post a note and can pick up anyone from South Bay Area or
along the way on either side of bay, within _reasonable_ distance of
main routes.)
I have a portable PVC corral to try out, but will bring hardware for a
picket line in case the corral doesn't work.
Does anyone remember how far apart are the picket posts at Pt. Reyes?
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defined as a race. The first across wins. Now there are weight divisions, so
there are several winners.
Another rule was that everyone that finishes is recognized - so to "finish is to
win" to the folks looking for the individual challenge. I personally don't
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From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Tevis finishers and BC
Well that URL has nothing on it. (Right now) Who won? Can someone give me
the order of finish (top ten) Does anybody know how and where Kristen
Flynn on Denita finished???? I know it hasn't been yet selected but who
got The Hagen Cup? (by the time y'all read this it'll be public) I can't
believe I'm at home and not riding. <sigh>
/\/\ Very Light and The Rebel Prince trained by...
/ \ Tommy Crockett, owner-mgr The Crockett Collection
~/(^ ^) Unique Designer Jewelry-Ornaments Los Osos, Calif
~/ ) ( tomydore@goblin.punk.net*dams028@academic.calpoly.edu
~/ ( ) 805-528-7052 fax/bbs 805-528-1021
~/ ~~ "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make
~/ | him surf" Gary Proper
<*>
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From: laneyh@ix.netcom.com (Lucia Humphrey)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:43:42 -0700
Subject: Re: Diane Janssen & Spanish Barbs
You wrote:
>
>
>I trained a Spanish Barb two years ago. He was bred in the Catskill
area
>of New York State. He was a small bay gelding, with the best
disposition
>I've ever seen on a horse. You could play with him like a big dog. He
>was very willing and quick to learn. Even though he was small, about
14.2hh,
>had a long, thick mane, tail and forelock and huge ears. He was quick
and
>quite handy but very bouncy due to a short back. The woman who owned
him told
>me he was typical in both temperment and conformation.
>furface@liii.com
>
>
Dear David -
Thanks for the info! For me, 14.2 is just right - it's just as
high as I can get on easily and as high as I want to think of falling
from! Sure sounds that gelding was a fun fellow!!! What did you do
with him - endurance? Was he good at it? If you didn't do it, do you
think the breed has endurance potential? I have an Arab mare now that
I love dearly, but someday maybe I'll get some sort of Spanish Barb if
they are any good at endurance. Thanks again and
Happy trails!
Laney
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From: nikki@griffith.dwr.csiro.au (Nikki Ward)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:57:36 -0700
Subject: gate into hold - thanks!
g'day all,
i would just like to thank mike, ray, joe, steph, tommy, bob, karren and
matt (i think that's all) for their welcomes and their information. i
haven't yet had the chance to properly read all your responses but will be
printing them off to look over more thoroughly, and no doubt will have lots
more questions then! :-) i just wanted to thank you all for responding so
quickly and helpfully. so THANKS! :-)
nik
*****************************************
Nikki Ward Griffith NSW Australia
nikki@griffith.dwr.csiro.au
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From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Tevis finishers and BC (fwd)
- - ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
Cc: endurance@moscow.com
Subject: Tevis finishers and BC
Well that URL has nothing on it. (Right now) Who won? Can someone give me
the order of finish (top ten) Does anybody know how and where Kristen
Flynn on Denita finished???? I know it hasn't been yet selected but who
got The Hagen Cup? (by the time y'all read this it'll be public) I can't
believe I'm at home and not riding. <sigh>
/\/\ Very Light and The Rebel Prince trained by...
/ \ Tommy Crockett, owner-mgr The Crockett Collection
~/(^ ^) Unique Designer Jewelry-Ornaments Los Osos, Calif
~/ ) ( tomydore@goblin.punk.net*dams028@academic.calpoly.edu
~/ ( ) 805-528-7052 fax/bbs 805-528-1021
~/ ~~ "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make
~/ | him surf" Gary Proper
<*>
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From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lake Sonoma Endurance Ride & Graham's visit (ATTEN: BAY AREA E-Lers)
Note: Ride Date is October 21st and the pre-ride events the PM of Oct. 20th
Post ride awards banquet is the evening of the 21st.
This ride is firming up nicely. I'd like to invite every Bay Area E-Ler
and all the many friends of Graham Jenkins to come to Geyersville the
night before the Lake Sonoma ride. Camp over, if you would to watch the
ride start and chat with Graham. (While he drinks my beer. Well I don't
drink it anymore somebody should!) ;-)
I've personally never done this one. Still since Graham Jenkins is going
to be in the Bay Area we decided to meet there. I've been seeing his name
on rec-eq since the late 80's and enjoying his company on the present form
of E-L so let's show the Aussie some good Old Fashioned California
hospitality. Jan is going to ride it too. Should be interesting on Diag.
I'm really looking forward to it. If The Rebel Prince isn't up to it I
might just take my Racehorse instead. :)
I've heard good things about it. Breck Thomas used to own a farm up there
I personally used to frequent the Geyersville hot baths back in the free
and easy late 60's. Nice country looks like a great place for a ride.
If Steph or anyone else would like more information Call ride sponsor...
Ronald Waltenspiel
707-433-8251
4791 Dry Creek road
Healdsburg, Ca. 93536
####Tommy Crockett, Los Osos, Ca.####
Tomydore@goblin.punk.net###DAMS028%CALPOLY.BITNET@cmsa.berkeley.edu
ask me about my TB mare Flossie or that Arab The Rebel Prince
"I don't wear no Stetson But I'm willing to bet son I'm just a big a
Texan as you are, There's a Girl in her bare feet Asleep in the back
seat, that trunk's full of Pearl Beer and Lone Star" Terry Allen
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From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lake Sonoma Endurance Ride & Graham's visit (ATTEN: BAY AREA E-Lers)
Note: Ride Date is October 21st and the pre-ride events the PM of Oct. 20th
Post ride awards banquet is the evening of the 21st.
This ride is firming up nicely. I'd like to invite every Bay Area E-Ler
and all the many friends of Graham Jenkins to come to Geyersville the
night before the Lake Sonoma ride. Camp over, if you would to watch the
ride start and chat with Graham. (While he drinks my beer. Well I don't
drink it anymore somebody should!) ;-)
I've personally never done this one. Still since Graham Jenkins is going
to be in the Bay Area we decided to meet there. I've been seeing his name
on rec-eq since the late 80's and enjoying his company on the present form
of E-L so let's show the Aussie some good Old Fashioned California
hospitality. Jan is going to ride it too. Should be interesting on Diag.
I'm really looking forward to it. If The Rebel Prince isn't up to it I
might just take my Racehorse instead. :)
I've heard good things about it. Breck Thomas used to own a farm up there
I personally used to frequent the Geyersville hot baths back in the free
and easy late 60's. Nice country looks like a great place for a ride.
If Steph or anyone else would like more information Call ride sponsor...
Ronald Waltenspiel
707-433-8251
4791 Dry Creek road
Healdsburg, Ca. 93536
####Tommy Crockett, Los Osos, Ca.####
Tomydore@goblin.punk.net###DAMS028%CALPOLY.BITNET@cmsa.berkeley.edu
ask me about my TB mare Flossie or that Arab The Rebel Prince
"I don't wear no Stetson But I'm willing to bet son I'm just a big a
Texan as you are, There's a Girl in her bare feet Asleep in the back
seat, that trunk's full of Pearl Beer and Lone Star" Terry Allen
- ------------------------------
From: step@fsr.com (Stephanie Teeter)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:45:05 +0800
Subject: Re: new to list
>>>>> "DKAdams" == DKAdams <DKAdams@aol.com> writes:
> Because I *am* new, I don't want to assume too much. I haven't
> seen information about upcoming rides posted here. Is that
> permissible?
> Deborah Adams
Permissible? Absolutely! I don't see any reason to advise or
regulate the flow of information within this group. As long as
the general topics are related to endurance - and unless a
problem develops - I'd say anything goes!
Have a great first ride Deborah - if you have access to the web,
the AERC handbook is online on the endurance homepage and is a
great source of information for new endurance riders.
Steph
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Stephanie Schroeder-Teeter
Rt. 1 Box 27A Princeton, ID 83857
First Step Research - "http://www.fsr.com/"
** new Endurance Riders Home Page location:**
"http://www.fsr.com/National/endurance/"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: rsantana@rsantana.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:52:49 pST
Subject: Tevis finishers and BC (fwd)
I saw the BC judging on Sunday afternoon.
Mathew MacKay-Smith came in first place just seconds in front of
Chris Knoch (past 2-time winner). I don't know who received th BC award
as I didn't stay for the awards dinner.
Both Mathew's and Chris's horses were a little stiff looking to me
during the BC judging. The first horse to trot out nicely was the 5th
place finisher, sorry I can't remember his name. I'm sure the URL at
Endurance Connection will have results posted soon.
BTW this is the first year in a long time where the men were so
well represented in top 10 finishers. I don't have a count there either
but it seemed like their were more men than women in the top 10.
Ray Santana
University of California at Davis
Medical Center
Endurance rider too.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tommy Crockett <tomydore@goblin.punk.net>
Cc: endurance@moscow.com
Subject: Tevis finishers and BC
Well that URL has nothing on it. (Right now) Who won? Can someone give me
the order of finish (top ten) Does anybody know how and where Kristen
Flynn on Denita finished???? I know it hasn't been yet selected but who
got The Hagen Cup? (by the time y'all read this it'll be public) I can't
believe I'm at home and not riding. <sigh>
/\/\ Very Light and The Rebel Prince trained by...
/ \ Tommy Crockett, owner-mgr The Crockett Collection
~/(^ ^) Unique Designer Jewelry-Ornaments Los Osos, Calif
~/ ) ( tomydore@goblin.punk.net*dams028@academic.calpoly.edu
~/ ( ) 805-528-7052 fax/bbs 805-528-1021
~/ ~~ "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make
~/ | him surf" Gary Proper
<*>
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From: step@fsr.com (Stephanie Teeter)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:00:00 +0800
Subject: Re: Vet procedure
>>>>> "BULTE" == BULTE <BULTE@INFO.FORASOL.atlas.fr> writes:
> Stephanie,
> Once the horse cross the arrival line we have 30 mn to get the
> vet IN. When the pulse is less than 64 the clock stops et the
> vet checks Pulse and gait. If he is not ok he is pulled out.
> If it takes more than 30 mn to recover he is pulled out.
> Pierre.
This sounds a little different if I understand you correctly. At
most of our rides, the 'gate into a hold' means that your hold does
not even begin until the pulse is down to whatever criteria is
defined before the ride begins (usually 60). So conceivably a
horse could spend much more time at the hold if he his slow
to recover. As with your system, if a horse does not recover
within 30 minutes he is pulled.
Another question - how consistent are the 'policies' across
Europe?
Desiree - how about Holland?
South Africa? Australia?
Steph
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Stephanie Schroeder-Teeter
Rt. 1 Box 27A Princeton, ID 83857
First Step Research - "http://www.fsr.com/"
** new Endurance Riders Home Page location:**
"http://www.fsr.com/National/endurance/"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: CMikeT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:10:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Vet procedure
Steph,
The must meet criteria within 30 minutes is used by all international
championship rides (this does NOT mean all FEI rides) and most of Europe
rides under international championship rules due to the number of riders
crossing borders there.
Mike
C. Mike Tomlinson, DVM
Tomlinson Consortium
501-D West Redlands Blvd.
Redlands, CA 92373-4642
(909)307-2369
Fax(909)307-2366
CMikeT@AOL.com
Mike@Tomlinson.com
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From: laneyh@ix.netcom.com (Lucia Humphrey)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:33:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Diane Janssen & Spanish Barbs
You wrote:
>
>Laney
>The Barbs name is Stardust and is trained him as a western performance
>horse. I know very little about endurance but small, short backed
horses
>usually don't cover a lot of ground with each stride. They are also
very
>choppy at the trot; two things which would go against endurance
>potential. I had such a good time with him I did it for free.
>furface@liii.com
>
>
David -
Thanks for your reply. You are right - a lot of small, short
backed horses have choppy strides! But virtually all the small, i.e.
14.2h or so, short backed Arabs who are used in endurance have
wonderful long strides, some with amazing overstrides. I guess there
is more to it than size & length of back.
Happy trails!
Laney
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From: laneyh@ix.netcom.com (Lucia Humphrey)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:33:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Diane Janssen & Spanish Barbs
You wrote:
>
>Laney
>The Barbs name is Stardust and is trained him as a western performance
>horse. I know very little about endurance but small, short backed
horses
>usually don't cover a lot of ground with each stride. They are also
very
>choppy at the trot; two things which would go against endurance
>potential. I had such a good time with him I did it for free.
>furface@liii.com
>
>
David -
Thanks for your reply. You are right - a lot of small, short
backed horses have choppy strides! But virtually all the small, i.e.
14.2h or so, short backed Arabs who are used in endurance have
wonderful long strides, some with amazing overstrides. I guess there
is more to it than size & length of back.
Happy trails!
Laney
------------------------------
From: "Joe Long" <mail.hiwaay.net@HiWAAY.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:39:41 -5000
Subject: Short-backed horses for endurance
Small, short-backed horses don't cover a lot of ground with each
stride?
Well, maybe not, but that's not the whole story.
Many's the time I would hear some rider brag about his horse's
"fantastic trot" as little (14.2) hand Kahlil and I cantered beside
him. Then, some miles down the trail, he sort of faded away ... and
Kahlil and I went on to finish in first place.
When he did trot, it always felt just fine to me. Oh, I've ridden
smoother, but I didn't post much on Kahlil -- mostly just "floated"
just above the saddle. A choppy horse can beat his own joints to
death -- Kahlil completed over 11,000 miles and is still sound today.
Many small horses have become legends in endurance. I believe a
small horse uses energy more efficiently and will generally last
longer, especially in tough mountain rides.
- --
Joe Long Rainbow Connection Arabians
PC/LAN Manager home of Kahlil Khai
Calhoun Community College AERC Hall of Fame horse
jlong@hiwaay.net 11,450 miles completed
------------------------------
From: djfloyd1@CCGATE.HAC.COM
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:53:38 PST
Subject: [none]
I would like to find an endurance riding club in my area (also endurance riders
in my area). I live in the northwest corner of Los Angeles County - more
specifically, the northwest corner of San Fernando Valley, which is part of LA
County. Are there any endurance riders/clubs out this way?
Please e-mail me at:
djfloyd1@CCGATE.HAC.COM
Thanks! Deborah VA Jackson
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From: Desiree Hanen <desiree.hanen@medtronic.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 02:08:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Vet procedure in The Netherlands
Folowing some earlier correspondence between Stephanie and Pierre on
vet procedures. At the bottom the vet procedure in The Netherlands and
the ones I was confronted with during rides in Germany and Belgium
(both non-ELDRIC rides):
> Stephanie,
> Once the horse cross the arrival line we have 30 mn to get the
> vet IN. When the pulse is less than 64 the clock stops et the
> vet checks Pulse and gait. If he is not ok he is pulled out.
> If it takes more than 30 mn to recover he is pulled out.
> Pierre.
> Pierre,
>This sounds a little different if I understand you correctly. At most
>of our rides, the 'gate into a hold' means that your hold does not
> even begin until the pulse is down to whatever criteria is defined
> before the ride begins (usually 60). So conceivably a horse could
>spend much more time at the hold if he his slow to recover. As with
>your system, if a horse does not recover within 30 minutes he is
>pulled.
>Another question - how consistent are the 'policies' across
>Europe?
>Desiree - how about Holland?
>South Africa? Australia?
>Steph
The Netherlands:
First, I think I have explained it earlier, we have a promotion system.
Completion of 3 rides per Class, starting in Class I, allows you to climb to
the ultimate 100 Miles/160 Kilometers in at least 10 rides.
Class I (<25 Miles/40 Kilometers): people start in small groups, not all
together. Approx. halfway there is a P&R check. You get half an hour
time there to present your horse with 64 BPM or less. The quicker your
horse recovers, the sooner you get out. No gait check, nothing further,
no pause. At the finishline pulse rate is taken and ride time stops if pulse
rate is 64 or less. Maximum recovery time: 20 minutes, otherwise
eliminated. A completion check is done 30 minutes after 64 was reached.
Class II (25-50 Miles/40-80 Kilometers), II I (50-75 Miles/80-120
Kilometers) and IV (75-100 Miles/120-160 Kilometers): mass start. After
approx. 20-25 Miles/30 - 40 Kilometers a vetgate. You cross the line, get
your "arrival time" noted on your vetcard. You can groom your horse in
the crewarea/groomarea with a maximum of 30 minutes. You may
present your horse at the vet as soon as you think he is ready (pulse
below 64 BPM, looking OK). At the moment you say "I want to present",
this "in-time" is noted on your vetcard too. The horse is measured and
judged as soon as possible (longer distances usually have preference
over shorter distances if there is a queue - most of the time longer
distance people have a greater mouth too!). If pulse is not OK, time will be
crossed out and you have to present anew later (within 30 minutes after
arrival time). Sometimes you can meet a vet, who says that you can
come back only at 30 minutes after arrival time if you don't pass the first
time (this way you get only two chances). There can also be a limited
number of times you are allowed to present. There can also be no limit
(not often done as this gives a queue at the vet). If the horse is lame
however, no second chance! Pulled.
If pulse rate is OK, it means that "in-time" becomes "hold-time" and your
pause has started. That is way it is necessary to have horses checked
(metabolics, gaites, etc.) as quick as possible after they get their
"in-time". Otherwise your pause will be over before having your horse
checked.
If your horse is OK, you start your pause (or what is left of it). After your
pause (usually approx. 30 minutes) your allowed to go without any
further check.
At the finishline pulserate is taken for statistics and recovery. There is
usually a completion check after 30 or 45 minutes, but there is also a
possibility of having a vet-gate finish. As soon as you think your horse is
ready (pulse below 64 BPM), you present your horse.
Belgium:
Arrival; after 10 minutes check-up with every beat above certain rate (I
believe it was 44) 2 penalty points; rate above 64 after 10 minutes, come
back at 30 minutes and you get at least 50 penalty points plus in addition
2 per beat above 44. Rate above 64? Eliminated! Further check on your
horse gives also penalty points if applicable (CRT, gaits, etc.). All points
are gathered, together with penalty points on minutes used more than
ideal time (1 per minute you used more). Total of all penalty points gives
final placings.
Germany:
Arrival; pulse is measured. After 10 minutes you get back and have it
measured again. Every beat above 30 is a penalty point, >64 after 20
minutes means eliminated. The horse gets also checked at the vet on
gaits, etc. 30 minutes after arrival you leave for second part of ride.
Sometimes hidden controls in the field (72BPM within 10 minutes or 64
within 20 minutes is allowed to continue, if not: eliminated).
At the finish line you get the same pulse check as at the pause (arrival
and after 10 minutes). Final examination on gaits, etc. after 2 hours.
Ratings according to penalty points on pulse rates.
Any other systems valid in Europe? ELDRIC rides are judged the same
everywhere (as far is I experienced until now). Local/National rides have
different systems per country.
Desiree Hanen - The Netherlands
(Still.... it takes Love over Gold & to finish is to win!)
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From: "Katherine J. Brunjes" <brunjes@saturn.caps.maine.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:23:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NEC 100 results
Northeast Challenge (Buckfield, ME) 100-mile endurance ride results:
1st - Cory Navoy on Corey (NH)
2nd- Sharon Akerstrom (NH)
3rd- Kathy Downs on Beamer (ME) - Best Condition
4th- Yvette Minten (Canada)
5th- Lee Alexander on Crystal Mint (VT) - Vet Score
6th-Wendy Bejaharano (VT)
7th-Patty Andrews-Moore (RI)
8th-Dorothea Meldrum (NY)
9th-Irving McNaughton on O'Malley (ME)
10th-Cathy Robbins (NH)
This was a two-day 100 mile - first day (Aug.12) hot and humid - in 90's
- - first 25 miles rocky,mountains, woods - 2nd 25 miles dirt roads, wood
trails, much flatter terrain (faster)
second day was repeat of first day trails - weather much cooler, windy,
sunny but in the low 70's (thunderstorms nite before cooled things off)
I was eliminated at end of first 50 miles - Anna's pulse came down fast,
but her CRI bumped up while waiting in the heat for the vet exam, and was
pulled (she has a heart murmur, and hot, humid weather will do that to
her - pulse is fine, but then bumps up within 30 minutes and hangs around 68)
Otherwise, great time - Anna did well, got stronger as the day went on -
in 4th place at the end of 50 miles -
Vets for ride - Art King, Canada, and Barbara Perkins, Maine
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