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RE: [RC] 2 Soleguard experiences - wrecksdukeYep, the equi-pak products cost $20 to $30+ per application - it depends on which one you get. One syringe only filled 2 hooves when I used it. I used it to help with the second day of the Sunland ride (rocks)in combination with shoes. My farrier was kind enough to come out late on Saturday to apply it for me. It stayed on for 25 miles (an LD) without using the mesh fabric they recommend. It stayed in until the next shoeing a few weeks later. Soooo, buying boots would proably be cheaper if you want to keep them barefoot. Oh, also, you can't just buy the product. You need a special applicator and the tips. The company will give you the "gun" if you buy 12 or so products.... one time... I believe. You should contact them for information. Melody ---- Terry Banister <ebeyrider@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: The SG is designed to be used on a barefoot horse ~ "No shoes, no problem," but it seems to depend on the application and the footing as to how well it stays in. If you have concerns about it coming off during the ride, you should not use it. Boots are a more reliable (and probably cost-effective) way to go. Terry "May the Horse be with You" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:39:28 -0800 From: lysanec@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] 2 Soleguard experiences To: dragnin100@xxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Then I don't understand why they are advertising the product for use on an unshod horse. I've been tempted to try it, but my horse is barefoot and I'm not sure the product will stay in. Of course, I can use boots, but if I use boots then there is no point in using Sole Guard. This is very confusing. Have they come up with a new version of Sole Guard that can stay in the hoof without a shoe??? From: Jody Rogers-Buttram <dragnin100@xxxxxxxxx> To: "ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mary Howell <mary.howell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:20:18 PM Subject: Re: [RC] 2 Soleguard experiences Joni's horse Cash had Sole Guard in his front feet at the NC last Oct. He finished the 100 in 5th place...and his Sole Guard was still there. The TRICK is to use something with it. No matter which Equi-Pak product you use. I read all the time about people having a bad experience with the stuff. I LOVE it. I have never had it come out. I have used it at the OD three different times on three horses....it stayed in. I use the mesh that the Equi people sell. I also use a Luwex rim pad or full pad, with the Equi Pak, Sole Guard, etc...under the pad sometimes. I would never try to use it alone, plus, I don't ever do the "dry the sole" part of the application. You just can't expect it to stay in the hoof without some help. Jody --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Mary Howell <mary.howell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Mary Howell <mary.howell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] 2 Soleguard experiences To: "ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 12:16 PM Hello all - Last May at the Biltmore 100, the Swifts used Soleguard on their barefoot horse. The trails there are mostly packed dirt and Tom checked all 4 hooves at every hold, then re-applied more Soleguard to the fronts mid-way through. The Soleguard wore off again but Tom didn't bother reapplying - less than 20 miles remained. Their horse won; Soleguard helped him do it "barefoot." Last October, the day before the Ntl Champ 50, My friend Kathy and I had the ride farrier apply Soleguard to our already-shod horses (fronts only) as extra protection in lieu of pads. The farrier did his best to apply so the stuff would stay in - using a horseshoe nail to carve out a groove between the steel and sole all to create a "lip" before the Soleguard set, having us wait until later afternoon so no dew on the grass, and keeping the horses for still 20 minutes afterward so it could set. We rode hard the next day and I'm glad my horse had that extra protection but the Soleguard was gone from one of his hooves by the first hold and from the other hoof by the second (last) hold. Soleguard kits were given to the Top 10 NC Finishers so hopefully someone else out there will chime in about their experience. Considering one doesn't always have time or optimal conditions to reapply Soleguard mid-ride, I'd always recommend old-fashioned plastic pads or maybe EZ boots over shoes, especially for a rocky ride like the Old Dominion. 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