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Re: [RC] Amazingly bad rider - Lori BertolucciIs this just another way of jumping? I never saw such...lol I always thought one should, somewhere along the lines, use their knees and ankles for shock absorption. Guess I was wrong. :) From: Jane Cunningham <horseyjane@xxxxxxx> To: loribertolucci@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:43:43 AM Subject: RE: [RC] Amazingly bad rider Here's a video of a rider I remember watching back home. She was a very successful rider. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsLzRdm0y2o Jane Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:05:14 -0700 From: loribertolucci@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Fw: [RC] Amazingly bad rider To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Kat, in the part of the video you are talking about...behind the flag...if you look, he lost his stirrup on the last jump, and wasn't able to get it again before making that jump behind the flag. I agree with you...this was a video that was set up. This is an accomplished jumper. Lori From: k s swigart <katswig@xxxxxxx> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:49:25 PM Subject: [RC] Amazingly bad rider Carolyne said: > This guy is a polo player and I guess this was the sale > video showing that anyone could ride this horse. He > actually is a good riders, but a crappy jumper. I am disinclined to believe that the explanation for this is that the rider in the video was a polo player, not a show jumper. As it is quite clear from watching the video that the rider is very knowlegeable about the rules for show jumping (just watch what happens when the horse takes down the rail and the jump has to be reset). This rider has also brought plenty of horses to plenty of fences, knows the rhythm and striding of riding a course of jumps, and (if you watch the rider go over the fence that we don't see and don't see a replay of because it is behind the flag) you can see that he DOES know how to stay on a horse's back and keep his leg (instead of letting himself get thrown out of the saddle) over a fence. In fact, you have to TRY to get thrown out of the saddle this way if it is gonna happen on every fence. Which I believe that this rider is doing (he might even be pushing off with his hands). Especially since, if you look at the combination, he doesn't get "thrown out of the saddle" nearly so far on the first element (probably because he knows he won't have as much time to recover). Personally, I think the whole thing was done as a set up--including the rather expertly shot video (notice that we don't ever see the videographer's feet and it is almost all in focus). The whole thing was done expertly from horse to rider to videographer, to post processing of the video--including the disclaimer at the end of, in essence, "no animals were injured in the making of this film." I would be very surprised if this horse and rider had not PRACTICED this before hand. The horse is totally unphased by the rider's actions. I am willing to believe that the rider is a stunt rider, but I would be very surprised to learn that he isn't a stunt rider that is not extremely familiar with jumping horses over fences and on courses. He rides the horse between the fences, to the fences, and away from the fences (despite the fact that coming away from the fences he is often not even in the saddle) absolutely impeccably. And anybody who rides jumpers knows that what it takes to be a good jumper rider is to ride the horse between the fences, to the fences, and away from the fences--over the fences is where you stop riding the horse and just let the horse jump and stay out of its way. So no, I don't think that this is some inexpert polo player accidentally getting thrown out of the saddle over every fence while riding a great and tolerant jumping horse. I think this horse and rider have done this many times before, that the rider is totally comfortable riding horses (not just this horse) over fences, and has probably ridden more jumper courses than all of us put together. And he does it so expertly that most people watching it think that the guy's riding is bad and inexpert. I make no comment as to whether I think it moral or ethical to have asked the horse to do this, but I can say that it was one of the most incredibly skillful pieces of riding that I think I have EVER seen. I wish _I_ could ride so well. kat Orange County, Calif. :) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net/. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more.
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