[RC] Tho Mongol Derby - k s swigartI have read with interest the assorted posts here regarding the "outrage" of the planned Mongol Derby including going to the Long Riders page and reading their many letters to all and sundry proclaiming what a disaster this will be, and going to the website of the event itself and that of some of the sponsors (those that didn't ask me to log in). Given this information, I would like to inject a certain amout of reserve to the (what I consider to be) hyperbole that has been posted here. For starters, despite the promoters contentions to the contrary, this is NOT the world's longest horse race.? At a mere 1000 km (~600 miles) it pales by comparison to the 2001 XP AERC sanctioned event that covered 2000 miles, and the 2007 Great Santa Fe Horse Race covered 700 miles. and for those races, the horses required to cover at least 50 miles each (and some of them were asked to do much more than that) not just 25. I wasn't at the Santa Fe event, so I don't know how it was?managed, but I was there for at least the first half of the 2001 XP and ride management did not provide anything more than a GPS track and monitoring of the horses or riders (or providing water for the horses) more often than every ~25 miles, everything else was up to the riders and their support crews (and it wasn't very far into the excursion that participants realized that that it would be prudent to arrange for it themselves because ride management wasn't).? Granted, the "race" was across Kansas and Nebraska paralleling Interstate 80 and not far from any civilization or communications (this became less true as the ride got into Wyoming, Utah and Nevada) and not Outer (or more accurately Inner) Mongolia, so it isn't a completely parallel comparison. However, in many ways the horses for the Mongol Derby are going to be asked a LOT less than the horse for either the 2001 XP or the 2007 Great Santa Fe Horse Race were being asked. Here is to hoping that the rumor that the horses are going to be denied food and water for the 24 hours prior to being ridden is false or rethought; although if I had to guess, it is false, especially since, after the first leg, nobody will know when any of the horses is going to be asked to go, because, unlike the AERC sanctioned rides mentioned above, after the first leg there is no specified start time, and for none of the legs is there a minimum speed requirement.? By the end of the Derby the participants are anticipated to be spread out by more than a week and the horses will need to be ready to go when any one of these riders arrives asking for a mount.? Logistically, there is just no way to withhold food and water for 24 hours before the horse goes. And while some people have bemoned the small stature of the Mongolian horses that will be asked to do this, it is probably no smaller than the stature of Skjoldur, Joh n Parke's Icelandic who did 1600 miles of that "race" almost three times the distance of the entire Mongolian Derby.? And since John rides as an AERC middleweight, he weigns in at at least 185 pounds.? Skjoldur and Remington have both carried John for many miles over many years 50 to 100 miles at a time. Asking a small stature mongolian to do the same for one 25 mile leg does not seem completely unreasonable to me. Additionally, the rumor that there will be no care for the horses' welfare is not borne up by the statement on the website of the event itself: http://mongolderby.theadventurists.com/index.php?page=horses Which states, among other things: The Mongol Derby is being staged in collaboration with some of Mongolia's most renowned and respected horsemen and equine veterinarians. Their expert knowledge combined with the logistics put in place by The Adventurists will ensure the horses are properly looked after throughout the adventure. The Adventurists ordinarily specialise in adventures with no back-up or marked route but the Derby is a unique beast. It includes an emergency system with fully trained expert medical proffesionals for the riders in addition to the extensive veterinary provisions for the horses before during and after the race and a GPS tracking system so we know what is going on along the whole route. Nor is the contention that the participants are nothing but a bunch of novices, as some of the participants that I have heard about DO include a Champion Steeplechase Jockey, a long time dressage rider, and a South African endurance (among other things) rider.? One would assume, that for those people who do have little riding experience, they will be doing a bit of practicing between now and then.? From their website in answer to the question "How good do I need to be at riding to enter the Derby?" "This is the toughest horse race in the world and you will need to be physically fit, in good health and have a good level of riding ability to take part in the Mongol Derby. This does not mean that you once went on a half-day pony trek when you were twelve. It means you are confident in your knowledge of horses and your ability to ride long distances across difficult terrain. You have ridden regularly, understand how to handle horses in general and have a strong understanding of horse welfare. It is vital that you understand the risks involved in taking on such a huge adventure. If at the pre-race training session in Mongolia it becomes apparent that your riding ability is not as stated in your application, the organisers reserve the right to withdraw you from the Mongol Derby without notice, for your own safety and that of the horses. "You will also need a good understanding of horse welfare as you will be responsible for each horse you ride. We will have vets on hand throughout the race to deal with any incidents, but it's you who will need to be able to recognise and report anything untoward with your steed." Lest one think this is impossible, the winner of the Great Santa Fe Horse Race had pretty much no experience before he signed up for the event, but availed himself of the oppurtinty to educate himeself (and hire competent support) before doing it. Participants will also, like we did for the 2001 XP, have the option of quitting at frequent intervals if they decide that the effort is beyond their capabilities. I have never been to Mongolia, so I have no idea the extent to which that country is not like Kansas and Nebraska (I suspect that it is not as flat--but then NOTHING is as flat as Nebraska), so I cannot say what this will be like, but in many ways, I am pretty sure that it won't be any where near as "gruelling" for the horses as the 2001 XP was; the horses won't be asked to go 50 miles at a time, and they won't be asked to go day after day after day.? I doubt that it will be a bunch of novice yahoos galloping little unfit ponies across the Mongolian steppe to their deaths; it certainly won't be after the first leg. The possiblity that there won't be any water or food for the horses for the 25 miles that they are being ridden (notice I say possibility, it is not a given) is also not HUGELY concerning to me.? There are many endurance riders who say that it is common for their horse not to drink before 20 miles, even if water is offered, and I confess to having done more than one 25 mile training ride with no food or water for my horse. As the Duck often repeated at the 2001 XP ride, horses CAN go 25 miles with no water, and it is especially not that difficult if they don't have to go on after having done so (e.g. on the pre-ride for the Main Divde 100 we went up Harding Truck Trail to the top of Santiago Peak (14.1 miles) and back (14.1 miles) with ~4700 ft of climb and the same in descent with no water or food for the horses). Additionally, I know how to beg water from the locals (which is what I did often on the early days of the 2001 XP).? However, additional reading of the FAQs on the website state that the course will frequently take you across rivers and that most of itis on the steppe where grass is not in short supply. A description that does not fit the 400+ miles from Salt Lake City Utah to Virginia City Nevada at all, yet the AERC sanctioned an endurance race across this terrain, and no horses died despite the fact that ride management did not provide more than a GPS track, water for the horses and a vet check every 25 miles.? Much more was asked of the horses, and much less was provided by ride management. I am not convinced that the concerns posted here or by the Long Rider's Guild are much more than Chicken Little bemoaning that the sky is falling. The only hyperbole that I found on the official website of the event is the assertion that this is the longest horse race in the world.? It is not; there have been others that are longer; and probably will be again.? I found a LOT of hyperbole on the Long Riders website, and a lot of what I consider to be rather knee-jerk reactions here. kat Orange County, Calif. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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