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I agree, Kat.  I've seen horses like this - the tie them till they  
quit fighting just doesn't work.  My first horse didn't have a tie  
problem, but he did have a submission problem.

His solution to a rider that asked too much of him was to find the  
most dangerous thing in the area (oncoming car, cliff, fence, etc.)  
and to throw himself into danger.  I got him after he had thrown  
himself onto a fence to get rid of his latest "I'll fix this horse"  
rider.

He was a great horse.  I just had to *ask* him to do things, and keep  
asking until I got it.  If I ran into difficulties, then I had to find  
a different way to present the question instead of just getting  
stronger with him.  If you demanded, came on too strong, (or God  
forbid, actually smacked him with a crop instead of just touching him  
with it), it would push his resistance button, and you had nothing but  
a fight.  Show him that you would work with him, and he would work  
with you.


On Apr 16, 2009, at 9:38 PM, k s swigart wrote:

> Dawn said:
>
> > She had obviously been "taught," by use of those halters
> >  that break when a horse sets back, that she could break
> >  loose.? Once she found out she couldn't, she gave up.? :)
>
> This only works on horses that give up.  Me?  I have worked with  
> horses that will die before they will give up.  In fact, one of the  
> ones I have I got because some other trainer tried to get her to  
> give up and she hung herself from the tie rail rather than quit...at  
> which time he pronounced her "too stupid to learn" (since she  
> trampled him into the ground rather than let him tie her up again)  
> so he offered to take her to the auction for her owners.
>
> For me, she stands tied just fine.  In fact, I use her for a a ride  
> & tie horse.  I didn't teach her this by letting her struggle and  
> hoping she would quit.  I already knew that she has no quit in her.
>
> She is not the only horse that I have worked with that is like this;  
> I LIKE horses that don't know the meaning of the word quit.  They  
> can be a little more challenging to train, because they will die  
> before they comply, and after you have trained them, you have to be  
> careful not to ask too much of them...because they will die before  
> they refuse to comply.
>
> kat
> Orange County, Calif.
> :)
>
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