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How do they deal with the rock?

Jen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Huston" <donhuston@xxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Permanent trail marker materials


> Part of the problem here in SoCal is that it is against the law to nail or 
> attach anything to any tree including picket lines, tent lines, lanterns, 
> etc. The fiberglass posts have worked very well because they can be placed 
> in just the right place to prevent confusion, stand alone and spring up 
> after being run over without being damaged or doing damage to the runner. 
> Of course they are ruined by fire which is ideal for Calif because CalFire 
> (our state run fire dept) believes in using the "Fire Storm" burning 
> method where residents are fined for clearing their land until there is 
> enough fuel to support a major fire where absolutely nothing is left, no 
> signs, brush, trees, powerpoles, bridges, guardrails, houses, nothing. 
> CalFire don't want no stinkin' trail signs stickin' up out of that nice 
> scorched landscape. Someone might think it was silly little controlled 
> burn.
> Don Huston
>
> At 05:48 PM 2/17/2008 Sunday, Truman wrote:
> > They are fiberglass. Fiberglass doesn't burn but the resin melts. The 
> > local State Forest bought a bunch of these spent a lot of money with doing 
> > a lot of research. The first controlled burn, all in the burn area were 
> > laying on the ground.
> >
> > Truman
> >
> > Karen Sullivan wrote:
> > > Our county bought some for part of the trail system.  From our
> > > perspective of trying to buy more, and somewhere from 50 to 100
> > > they are way pricey...about $10 each for post and spike into ground....
> > > and another couple bucks for the lettering.....nice stuff if you can 
> > > afford it
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/17/08, *Don Huston* <donhuston@xxxxxxx <mailto:donhuston@xxxxxxx>> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hello Angie,
> > >     http://www.glasforms.com/products_layout.htm
> > >     Here is San Diego the County uses these flexible fiberglass markers
> > >     4ft long with various labels. I do not know the cost but the labels
> > >     remain readable for many years and the post itself is unfazed by our
> > >     weather. I recommend the Dual-Flex or the SignPost models that
> > >     support decals on both sides.
> > >     Don Huston
> > >
> > >     At 12:56 PM 2/17/2008 Sunday, you wrote:
> > >     >Just curious as to how other forest have marked their permanent
> > >     trails.
> > >     >At Pigeon Mtn. we have used oil based paint on trees, but it
> > >     fades away
> > >     >and it's a mess to work with. I remember that in Vermont they had
> > >     what
> > >     >appeared to be the lids off paint cans nailed on the trees. At
> > >     Biltmore
> > >     >they have plastic arrows stapled on. I'd be interested in what is 
> > > the
> > >     >average life of any of these methods of marking. There used to be
> > >     lots of
> > >     >Competitive Trail & Endurance events at Pigeon but since 2002 
> > > there's
> > >     >been nothing. Since the same people who ran the rides put in the
> > >     >permanent trails up there the maintenance of them has gone with
> > >     the ride
> > >     >managers. I'm guessing that since the Appalachian Trail uses paint 
> > > it
> > >     >must be the standard. Just wondered if anyone had figured out
> > >     anything
> > >     >better.
> > >     >
> > >     >Angie McGhee
> > >     >http://www.lightersideofendurance.com
> > >     >Work it harder, Make it better, Do it faster, Makes us stronger!
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