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Re: [RC] Barefoot, then shoeing for E-rides only - Trailrite

I agree, I couldn't come home and pull the shoes after a ride.  First of all I don't pull the shoes myself, second, if you did just pull the shoes and did a touch-up trimming, then the hoof walls will break away at the nail holes...at least my horses do when I have shoes pulled.
 
I have a mare that never had shoes on for the first 5 years of her life.  She has hoofs like steel.  I used boots to protect while conditioning.  I found after increasing work that the horse couldn't get footing very well on our hard slick (from motorcycles) steep hills.  She was slipping out in the rears & if you add rain, then it was totally unsafe!  At once I choose to start using shoes.  I was afraid that my mare would pull a stifle, or hock out from slipping out in the rear.
 
I don't have a solid way of thinking about hoof protection one way or the other.  If you live in an area that your horses don't have a problem then that is wonderful for the horse and the most ideal.  But here in Southern West Coast area, the ground is hard, GD or clay base, the motorcycles & Mt. Bikes make it harder, the hills are steep and sometimes rocky.  I use shoes with pads, and I wear the shoes out in 4 weeks.  No hoof can wear less that metal around here, the demand is higher than the hoof growth for this to be an option around this & the Malibu costal areas.  Boots are great but the traction in the rear can be a major problem, and I would never use EZ boot studs for more traction because a horse needs to sort of slide into step while in a trot in the rear.  Adding studs can cause problems too in the fetlock areas after miles of use. 
 
I would rather go barefooted, but I've tried and failed here in this area.  On top of this, I really can't see how my horses are being harmed in anyway with using metal shoes along with pads.  I have 7 horses that all have 3,000 - 6,000 miles to date and other than some that are older than dirt, they are all still being ridden either in endurance or for just plain fun trail riding.
 
Tammy Robinson
Trail-Rite Products
18171 Lost Creek Road
Saugus, CA 91390
661/513-9269 office
661/713-3912 cell
661/513-9206 fax
www.trail-rite.com

 
In a message dated 8/7/2008 10:21:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carrie.kitley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
We have fine dirt and sand pretty much everywhere we ride around here (La Purisma Mission) so I believe it would be perfect for transitioning to barefoot, however I have a question about attending rides:
If I decided to go barefoot with my mare for the majority of time except shoe her for e-rides only, would this be too much alternating if I were doing say, 1 LD (so far) every two months or so? 

Also, for those of you who only shoe for e-rides, I've heard it said "when I get home, I just pull the shoes."  Who pulls the shoes?  You pull them yourself and then rasp the hooves afterwards or do you call out your farrier to shoe and unshoe for each ride?  I'm curious.  I can't afford to do that and don't know if I could attempt the unshoeing on my own without hurting my horse.  Or am I making a bigger deal out of it than it is?  My horse means everything to me, I just don't want to screw up, and since she IS after all, a Princess of the highest order, Her Highness deserves ONLY the best.  ;)

Carrie Kitley
30th Medical Group, Vandenberg AFB
DMLSS Database Sustainment Specialist (DSS)
CACI International Inc  www.caci.com
dsn 276-1077, Comm (805) 606-1077
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-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynne Glazer
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM
To: sherman
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] SHOES IN THE FRONT - Normanjudyv

Kathy, believe me, it wears down the entire foot.  Walls and all, not just sole.  I have two horses barefoot at the moment, mother and daughter, and neither is being ridden.  The retired distance horse's front feet are cosmetically, not functionally trimmed every 15-18 weeks, beveled a bit, the 4 yr old daughter's slight high low watched and trimmed as necessary.  No length trimmed almost EVER on their hinds and they live in 24x48 pens!  They do get turnout, but that's different than work.  They can chip out the quarters on rocks a little when it's late in their cycle.  I expect the daughter to be able to go barefoot until she starts doing serious miles, she has seriously thick walls and seemingly iron soles.

I'm glad for people who have perfect, non-abrasive footing! 


Lynne

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On Aug 7, 2008, at 9:28 AM, sherman wrote:


   
   
   
    The damage that is usually done to a shod horse when they lose a shoe is due to the hoof wall being too long(to ride barefoot)  and breaking off, often too high. A horse that is kept barefoot and ridden that way, generally keeps the hoof wall worn (or owner keeps it rasped) to sole level and beveled a bit, so there is rarely any chipping or breaking or leverage forces on the wall. The sole is what gets sore on some horses, likely due to genetics, feed, lack of freedom of movement as a youngster, or other issues. I haven't yet seen a horse with hooves worn to nubs, only read of it happening, mostly with DG or sand footing. I guess it wears down the protective sole callous.
   
    Kathy
   
    A lot of riders In my area shoe their horses only in the front. What are the pros & cons with doing that? I think it,s done to save money, surely not because it,s what,s best for the horse if in fact the horse gets ridden anywhere other than a few times around the ring or a mile down the trail.
   
      Can,t imagine doing 100 mile rides without shoes. The 100s I rode back in the day, the horse the was lucky to get thru a ride with his shoes still on and no damage to his hooves. Judy



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