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Re: [RC] hooves - steelsidedown

I read it as you did Don.
 
I've enjoyed Redden's methods and concepts.  I've had great success with "hopeless" founders using his rail shoes as well as casting methods. 
 
If anyone hasn't seen his site, its;  http://www.nanric.com/
 
Jen
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Huston
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: [RC] hooves

Hello Carrie,

The article did not say it was wrong to have matching hooves. It said matching hooves with unequal coffin bone angles can cause problems.
You did the right thing getting x-rays because that is the only way to tell if you have unequal coffin bone angles. What you did was not a mistake at all, just expensive...ugh. Hopefully your x-rays were done with all the frog tip and heel markers and toe wires. Those things are needed to determine how the coffin bone is sitting with regard to the existing toe horn and hoof plane and sole thickness. Make sure you get a copy of the x-rays.

Redden's second to last paragraph and I quote:
"Significance Most light-breed horses will have a bone angle around 50-51°, but variations of up to 15° can occur between feet on the same horse. Matching feet with such different bones can cause unwarranted problems (see "The Myth of Matching Feet" on page 82)."

His paragraph says to me that most light-breed horses CAN have matching hooves and most will measure 50-51° . BUT if a hoof seems way off then get x-rays and determine the coffin bone angle because variations of up to 15° can occur, then trim that particular hoof accordingly. Basic common sense stuff.

Don Huston



At 01:47 PM 7/22/2008 Tuesday, Kitley, Carrie E Civ USAF AFSPC 30 MDSS/SGSLF wrote:
That's a very interesting article.  If we could just convince all the ride vets of this, then we wouldn't get pulled for being a little "off"?  I just spent a bundle on x-rays and diagnostic imaging and a "specialized" farrier, trying to get my girl's feet all even (she was low on one heel, but it never seemed to bother her much), and now I'm wondering if it wasn't a mistake.  She's now having some minor back pain after riding this weekend, that she never suffered from before.  I'm so frustrated I could scream.  I sure wish our furry friends could talk!  Sometimes I think I'm doing the right thing by her, and then I get more information and question what I've just done.

Carrie Kitley
30th Medical Group, Vandenberg AFB
DMLSS Database Sustainment Specialist (DSS)
CACI International Inc  www.caci.com
dsn 276-1077, Comm (805) 606-1077
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-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of firedancefarms
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:40 PM
To: ridecamp
Subject: [RC] hooves

This is an excellent article from the horse.com
Here is a quote from part of it.  I think it will ease a lot of worries!
The rest of the article is:
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=7630

Most horses do not have perfectly matching feet. Why? Often, the shapes of the coffin bones inside them are very different. When the bone angles vary by up to 15°, is it any wonder that the hooves are shaped differently?

Matching hoof angles when bone angles are significantly different has an inherent risk of causing unwarranted lameness because the forces within the foot are drastically altered.

If you try to make feet like these match externally, you might create a lameness problem. It's a mistake to think that forcing one to match the other or making both conform to a vague standard will make them healthier. A horse's feet can be perfectly healthy and functional at very high levels of competition without matching each other or some "perfect" standard. They just have to be in equilibrium with their internal structures to stay "happy."

--Ric Redden, DVM, with Christy West

Louise Burton
Firedance Farms Endurance Arabians
http://pages.prodigy.net/firedancefarms


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Replies
[RC] hooves, firedancefarms
RE: [RC] hooves, Kitley, Carrie E Civ USAF AFSPC 30 MDSS/SGSLF
RE: [RC] hooves, Don Huston