Re: [RC] Cronin Ranch - Sheila_LarsenHave you run into motorcycles at Cronin? I hope not. I hope you didn't think that I don't agree with you about the rafters because I do although I respect the picnic areas. I will say that I do like to have a place where I can go and have my dog off leash as I can't do that at Cool anymore. I haven't run into packs of dogs, unless it is a pack of 2. and the only agressive dogs Ihave run into there are the ones on least (I think they feel safe because they are still attached to their owners : ) . I too have complained about the rafting vans going too quickly on the road and scaring my horse and running over wildlife. Poor little toad didn't have a chance, ok I am partial to toads. All the hunters I have run into there have been very very polite. I agree that we all need to live together and that we need to come up with an equitable solution to this issue. Again, I hope you don't think I was dismissing your concerns because I agree with your concerns and even though we have had different experiences with the users out there I agree we need to remain vigilient. Thanks, Sheila Horses lend us the wings we lack. Author Unknown Lynelle Robertson <purplehorsebarn@ yahoo.com> To ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, 07/01/2008 09:17 Sheila_Larsen@xxxxxxx AM cc Subject Please respond to Re: [RC] Cronin Ranch purplehorsebarn@y ahoo.com I agree that we all need to stay on the well traveled marked tails for the reasons you mention. I do carry water in a tank in my trailer but it would have been nice to let her drink. My whole point to the email is why do we have to settle for this when the rafters demand exclusive usage. I had several phone conversations with Jeff about people's packs of dogs running off leash plus the bow hunters and the cars and motorcycles trying to run us down while riding. He told me "It is BLM land and I can't restrict the dogs or hunters plus the vans that the rafters use are necessary to get supplies down to the river". Ok, why do they have to speed and not give right of way to riders? Then why must we be restricted? Is this not a double standard. I believe there is more going on behind the scenes. I lived all my life in the bay area and rode Mt Diablo for over 2 decades and watched the government and environmentalist eminent domain the cattle ranch's 2000 acres reduced to 150 when it was willed specifically to continue as a cattle ranch for future generations of children to see and use. We were told at the meetings that the cattle and horses were eroding the ground. So what do they do instead of letting the cattle grazed down the weeds and brush they bring herbicide spray in and set small back fires that got away from them and almost burned the mountain down. That is how I know that there is more to this and we have to stand firm. Sorry to go on so but it p.... me off again. I am just tired of the government telling me what I can and can't do. Isn't anyone else mad to? --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Sheila_Larsen@xxxxxxx <Sheila_Larsen@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Sheila_Larsen@xxxxxxx <Sheila_Larsen@xxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Cronin Ranch To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 8:41 AM The issue is more than just water access. I understand that the rafters do not want horses in their picnic area and I respect that and will not go into their picnic area. However, closing the trail that parallels the river is overkill. It is the prettiest part of the trail, has a breeze and is just down right nice. Asking horses not to access the river except in a few places is ok provided they are safe places (the one spot I went to didn't seem all that safe but I was told that I went to the wrong opening at that access site). I don't mind not riding along that portion of the trail during the weekend but during the week there is no one there I will continue to ride along the river. The sign also says that the closure is for riparian restoration which is another red herring. There is nothing wrong with the riparian area that will not come back with time and certainly horses are not causing further problems. I think what bothers me most is that it was just done as to the best of my knowledge without any input from the equestrian community on how best to resolve the problem. I will say though that equestrians will not endear themselves to BLM if they continue to cut trail up an and down the hills. There are some rare plants out there that could be trampled. In addition, these "social trails" or whatever you want to call them cause serious erosion problems. Cutting trail is a bigger problem than some may think and does cause hard feelings with land managers, so if we want to keep our trails we need to think about how our actions are viewed, and yes I think about that when I ignore the signs and go along the river trail, however, I do not go into the picnic areas. The rafters can live with horse poop on the trail imo. It is so hot out there it dries very quickly so flies are not a big problem, at least that I have seen. Thanks, Sheila 916.414.6685 Horses lend us the wings we lack. Author Unknown =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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