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RE: [RC] [RC-Digest] Vol: 03.5937 - Natalie HermanFrom: "Kathy Mayeda" Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] How can I tell when horse is ready for an LD?> I was told by someone that you can pull a horse that is kept in pasture and be able to finish an LD without any conditioning. Maybe they are just talking about Arabs, I dunno. !!!!Note:!!!! The follwing is a "do not do this at home folks, professionals on a closed course" type thing... Here is my experience on this..IF this is your first (or horse's) LD, PLEASE do your homework...otherwise you may get your horse into trouble... That said, I have taken my 14hd mare (grade, part Morgan part QH, all lazy and lives on air, LOL..so NOT the "ideal" endurance horse or "arab") and after doing about 6mos of conditioning 5yrs ago(ok, OVERconditioning, LOL), did several LDs with her over maybe a year's time...never did any 50's...then took her and got her bred. She now has a 3yo filly. Since this initial conditioning and time off for maternal leave, she only gets "trail" riding and some limited arena work maybe 7-10 days a month (as I am so busy with work and when not working, off at rides with the "real" endurance horse, so she is pretty much a pasture ornament)..she DOES live (with 2 or more other horses) on either 5 acres of hillside pasture in non-grass season or 5 flat acres of dry lot in grass season (she gets cresty and ouchy footed if on too much grass...I suspect IR but since I manage her diet and care already, I have been too lazy to get her tested), but is such a lazy horse, she never really "runs" around the pasture unless I chase the horses around...even then, half the time she lets them run and eats or stands around instead, LOL... I take her to about 2-4 LD rides a year, usually when my main horse needs a break and a favorite ride is in his break time...Or I feel guilty cause I never do anything with my "favorite" horse anymore (poor thing lost favor when she turned out not to be a "real" endurance horse...the lazy bum, LOL...she is a GREAT "dude" or kids horse for visitng friends though:P) She goes through the rides at the back of the pack (with usually no more than 1/2 hr or less left on the clock) and I closely monitor her and am willing to pull at the slightest hint of distress... But she gets through them with flying colors :) So horses really CAN do fine on LDs (esp with an original "base" of conditioning, even if a while back) IF you know what you are doing and can really pay attention to stress signs and rate the horse (idiot horses that waste energy and want to "run" all the time, despite lack of conditioning, are not ideal for unconditioned LDing)...Most "fit" trail horses can do an LD if managed well (by fit I do not mean a once a week, "walking" trail ride of 5 miles, LOL..but an avid trail rider that rides 5 miles or more several times a week with all gaits and a decent amount of trotting) by a good horseman/woman. Breed does not matter (though Arabs are "easier" to get into and keep in shape and manage, thus many ppl prefer them). But most do NOT manage the horse well..they figure they'll "try an endurance ride" and underestimate the amount of riding they really do (thus the horse's conditioning), get out there, get caught up in the heat of competition (or thier horse does and is no longer the "mellow" trail horse they knew), over ride, and are pulled... Soooo long story short, if the horse is able to do 25 miles a week (on a weekend, or spread into several 12 miles rides a few times a week, whatever) at 5-6 mph, recovers fine to criteria, you are good to "try" an LD in the back of the pack... Have fun, ride carefully and be ready to pull. Try to find an "easy" ride too (25 miles, average temps, not HUGE climbs) and see how your horse does...pull if you have to (and go back to more conditioning at home if it was "conditionig" related...rocks causiong a pull don't count, LOL) and if it seemed to work, go to another one, etc.... Remember too with thicker horses...COOL COOL COOL...does wonders on them...and if they sweat a ton, make sure to give some form of elyting (I prefer small, often doses in food rather than huge Tube dosing once at a VC) but don't over e-lyte either... Best advice: Find someone that is TRULY willing to mentor you/ride with you at that ride at YOUR pony's pace...they can give you a hand with evaluating your horse as you ride along...(but don't rely totally on them..YOU know your horse best!) Natalie (off to head towards Schellbourne in a few days and taking that poor neglected mare with to do some "trail" rides on the non-ride days...or some "Duck Miles" if the big boy gets pulled..got to get her "in shape" for an LD at the end of June, LOL...:P) "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... 'Wow! What a ride!' 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