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FW: [RC] [RC] Was Black bears on the trail- California, now invasive exotic plants - Mike SherrellIf you made any birds fly up from feeding, or scared off a fish that was about to strike at a bug on the surface beside your raft, you disturbed the habitat, increased the amount of energy they needed to expend to survive, and reduced their ability to reproduce. That doesn't count the paved road in and out of the park, the meadow your house and lawn covered up, the habitat around the world that was torn up to get at the gas you burned and the steel you burned it in, or the land that used to feed other animals that now feeds you. Same for me, of course. Regards, Mike Sherrell Grizzly Analytical www.grizzlyanalytical.com 707 887 2919; fax = 707 887 9834 -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara McCrary Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:29 AM To: mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ridecamp Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Was Black bears on the trail- California, now invasive exotic plants I don't recall disturbing any plants or animals as I was rafting down the Colorado. And the company we went with was excruciatingly particular about not leaving ANYTHING unnatural in the wilderness...no garbage, no paper, no plastic, no waste of any kind. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sherrell" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Ridecamp" <Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: FW: [RC] [RC] Was Black bears on the trail- California, now invasive exotic plants Rafting down the Colorado would seem to make you an invasive species too, no? Out of Africa, aren't we? No offense; I include myself. It's just that the older I get, the more misanthropic, especially when I think of the extinction rate we've imposed on the other animals. Regards, Mike Sherrell Grizzly Analytical www.grizzlyanalytical.com 707 887 2919; fax = 707 887 9834 -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara McCrary Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:14 AM To: RIDECAMP; Karen Sullivan Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Was Black bears on the trail- California, now invasive exotic plants I do strongly agree with you on the issue of invasive exotics. Having rafted down the Colorado River in Utah, I saw first-hand how awful is the Tamarisk invasion. A native of Russia, impossible to get rid of, roots 30 feet long, spread all the way from the delta of the Colorado River at Baja California, where it had been planted as an erosion control. I asked our boatman how it came to be upstream so far (eastern Utah) and he asked me, "And which way is the wind blowing?" Toward us...upstream. Imagine this plant spreading all the way from the Sea of Cortez to Utah. It's awful. We deal with invasive exotics on our ranch...broom, wild hemlock, thistles, Cape Ivy to name a few. We actually had a few plants of Yellow Star Thistle sprout in a small area of irrigated pasture, the seeds being spread from one infested bale of alfalfa hay. I had a hoe out so fast, grubbing the thistle from the ground, and I burned it in our fireplace. I shouldn't get started on this subject...it provokes me to frustration. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Sullivan" <greymare56@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Cynthia LeDoux-Bloom" <cledoux@xxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Black bears on the trail- California I have absolutely no interest inriding in a man-made park like setting, and get extremely upset to see spreading invasive exotics........(like all the tamarisk-salt cedar) choking the creeks in the Cache Creek wilderness), the scotch broom and Pampas grass all over the northern Calfornia coast, etc.=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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