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Re: [RC] coggins - customary - Eric RueterThe only valid way you can "check" a coggins paper is to have the "original" in your hands no copies, AND have the horse standing in front of you and match all the markings on the papers with the markings on the horse. Not a very rider friendly method when you have over two hundred horses showing up over three days, and some of them not checking in at the office until right before they ride. Plus you really have to check EVERY horse including volunteer horses, and horses just there for companionship or for crew to ride. Just having a "copy" of a negative coggins sent in with the ride entry does not get you off the hook. If you do not check the original against the horse, it doesn't count. Also, I do not think you will ever actually see a positive result. It's my understanding that they come to your property when there is a positive, and either you convince them that you can and have successfully quarantined your animals, or had the animals in question destroyed and properly disposed of before they leave. Or maybe that is just rural (not urban) myth? I as a RM am ultimately responsible for the horses that show up at the ride, but I am not sure I am willing to put up with the hassle of really checking "coggins". Especially not if the TN Dept of Ag isn't serious about enforcement. thanx eric Eric Rueter Rueter Consulting, Inc. Eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 865.988.4134(W) 865.599.3594(C) 865.986.5966(H) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Marins" <coldeye22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Tx Trigger" <txtrigger@xxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [RC] coggins - customary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tx Trigger" <txtrigger@xxxxxxxxx>...I had driven about 6 hours to pick him up, and knew the chance of him having EIA was pretty slim, but wanted that "out" of being able to return him if it some how was positive.You gambled. True, with an almost certain chance of winning. Hopefully, the only horses you gambled with were your own. Just to be argumentative (in a friendly way :-), if it is illegal to transport a horse with a positive Coggins, how were you going to return him to his previous owner? It was the discussion with the state vets that opened my eyes to my legal responsibilities as a ride manager. The odds of an infected horse turning up at a trail ride, particularly in Massachusetts, were real close to zip. But if one were to attend and I hadn't made at least some effort to try to determine its status and get it off the grounds because it didn't have a certificate, AND its test turned up positive some time later AND the owner disclosed during the interogation by the state vets that she'd brought the horse to our ride, I was going to have anywhere up to 60 *very angry* riders. Even if no horse ever turned up positive, a "surprise raid" would still result in fines and a really pissed off park manager, since checking for Coggins was also written into our special use permit. Linda Marins =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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