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I've found that some of my Arabs have small mouths that respond badly to the joint itself in the snaffle. When pressure is brought on the reins, that joint hits the roof of the mouth and I have a horse raising its head to avoid the bit. When I give them a straight bit like a kimberwicke, the pressure on the reins gets a very different reaction. But it's hard to say who is going to hate the snaffle. My 21 yr old mare gave me the rides from hell (and sometimes back) under the slightest provocation with snaffle, both jointed and French link. First ride with the kimberwicke was a totally new mare. Her first son is happy in his D-ring snaffle, but her second reacted like her.

Maryanne

On 10/14/07, Kathy Mayeda <kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I could ride my endurance horse in literally anything, except during an
endurance ride.  He's pretty tractable during conditioning rides, even with
several other  fast horses.  But he does get racebrain, so when we used to
do endurance we use an a double jointed Myler kimberwicke during endurance
rides, or maybe a ride or two in between.  I like it because I still get a
good lateral feel with that bit compared to other kimberwickes.  It's nice
to have brakes.  I learned this after bloodying his mouth on the 4th day of
Death Valley Encounter trying to hold him back with a French Link snaffle.
He totally respects the kimberwicke.

My mare has done her first LD in a rope halter, but she doesn't have race
brain. She just thought she was on a long trail ride. Since she's 17 this
year and we've really never done endurance, I doubt very much that we will
be testing her for race brain.  But I bet if I get her fit enough to really
do a 50, she may be a kimberwicke subject too.

K.



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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: [RC] energized horses/making them that way and then toning it down!


> I'm curious why you want to keep them in a snaffle? I ride in a Little S
> Hackamore for the ease in eating and drinking, is that the reason for
> the sidepull? I've read that the snaffle is not necessarily the kindest
> bit even though it is generally used to begin teaching the horses. Maybe
> someone with more knowledge can speak up here.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> Kathy Klenk wrote:
> My goal is to ride both my geldings in either snaffle or side pull. So
> far Ramsy is fine with either and I can use my tone of voice to get him
> to stop dead in his tracks. I think he has the potential for race brain
> though. The other gelding I just started riding again after a layoff and
> have a snaffle on him. He is not so easy or sensitive. What is better,
> keeping a snaffle but risking putting him in circles even during
> conditioning rides or to change bits?
>
>
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