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Beth,

The mouthpiece that changed my horse at the start of rides is a 41PB, and 
like I said, I chose a Kimberwick cheek.

Good luck!



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> From: Beth Walker <bwalker2@xxxxxxx>
> To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [RC]   [RC] [RC] [RC] [RC] NATRC is not endurance
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:57:33 -0700
>
> Thanks folks!
>
> Sounds like I'm not the only one.  I did try leaving after everyone  at 
> Fandango ( the LD ), and he was OK until we passed some folks.   I'm also 
> getting pointers on ground work, since his ground manners go  out the 
> window at rides, too :(   I saw some improvement in that area  at the 
> Manzanita ride, and it seems to help with his calming down so  he can pass 
> the VC, too.
>
> As for the new bit -- I have a Myler Low Port Forward Tilt (MB 36)  and 
> also a Myler Ported Barrel ( MB 33 ).  I know that the MB 36  tears his 
> tongue up ... he had a bad sore on both sides after the  Manzanita ride 
> this weekend (our first 50).
>
> He seems to have a wide tongue, fat lips, and a narrow jaw (4 3/4  width 
> mouth), as best as I can tell.  Not sure about the palate  height, but I am 
> assuming fairly low.
>
> I haven't figured out exactly what is causing the sores on his  tongue, but 
> I think it is getting pinched between the bit and his  teeth.    I am on 
> the lookout for a new bit, since I have yet to find  one that he seems 
> really comfortable with.  I've tried the two above,  plus a french link 
> (not nearly enough whoa for ride day), a Wonder  bit (pinched / rubbed his 
> lips).  I just bought a Sweetwater mouth  western bit, but it looks like it 
> is too wide for him - the shoulders  of the port hit right on his bars (and 
> I have yet to find a western  bit in a 4 3/4 width).
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Dawn Carrie wrote:
> > Oh yeah...the "this can't possibly be my horse!" syndrome on ride  day!  
> > They morph into an entirely different creature.  LOL  My  horse Bear was 
> > like that for about a year and a half...the only way  I could have my 
> > normal horse back was to fall back and let everyone  get ahead of 
> > us...about 10-15 minutes after the last horse got out  of sight, the "old" 
> > Bear returned and we could have a lovely ride.   But let a horse pass us, 
> > or us catch up to someone, and he'd get  all psycho again.
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Chastain, Shannon L. wrote:
> > Beth,
> > My horse was the same way two things have help lots of ground work/ 
> > bending before the ride and not leaving with the crowd. I usually  leave 
> > last.
> > Shannon
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Ranelle Rubin wrote:
>
> > Beth,
> >
> > My horse is like that as well. One thing that helped is a new bit.  I 
> > talked at length to the Myler rep about which bit I was using and  the 
> > result I was getting. She recommended a L2-3 bit that works  great. Even 
> > at Tevis with 180 horses, he was great.
> >
> > If you are interested, I can get you the mouthpiece #. I got it  with 
> > Kimberwick cheek pieces and love it.



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