RE: [RC] [RC] BC judging - GMM - Susan E. Garlinghouse, DVMFWIW, I always try to talk with riders during normal vet checks as to what I'm seeing. Same as at the completion check. At BC judging, I usually try to give the riders at least what my impressions are at the time, although I won't share my specific scores right then and there, nor will I comment on how their horse looks compared to another. I also make their vet score available to them after BC is announced, and am happy to discuss it in detail if anyone wants. Sometimes during presentation, I may not say a whole lot, because a) I'm concentrating on what I'm doing, which involves a lot of careful listening to internal gurgling and thumping during which you're not available for conversation, and b) I've seen vets accused of favoritism when they had a friendly conversation (or, heaven forbid, actually laughed) with the rider/owner during the presentation---sometimes better just to do your job. It's usually not classified information to talk to the vet at some point or another, though. Most are happy to do so. Susan Garlinghouse, DVM -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ranelle Rubin Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:49 PM To: sshaw@xxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] BC judging - GMM Steve, I couldn't agree more! Even when you are presenting your horse, they don't say much...! Ranelle Rubin, Business Consultant http://www.rrubinconsulting.com Independent Dynamite Distributor raneller@xxxxxxx 916-663-4140 home office 916-718-2427 cellular 916-848-3662 fax From: Steve Shaw <sshaw@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] BC judging - GMM Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:07:18 -0700 GIVE ME MORE! This is something that I have been asking officials at many big rides for about 5 years. When ride management/vets have all top ten horses show at the same time, especially at major events, such as Tevis, Old Dominion, NC Championship or FEI events, why can't they share more information with observers, other than just the trot outs? It would be MUCH more educational and interesting if they would share with us, at the time, some of their basic findings that are non judgmental, such as pulse, respiration and cardiac recovery. If they are giving a hydration or gut sounds of A, B or C then simply tell us. This does not mean that we have to second guess them on the finding, but these parameters would sure help me is appraising the trot out, demeanor, finishing time and "look" of the horse. What other parameters do they record that could be shared with us at the time that would be educational? I would hope that AERC and others would join me in lobbying the vets and management to make the BC judging more educational and interesting. Steve Shaw =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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