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our neoprene one is not moulded, it has a rope or something
inside and is very soft and pliable, plus attaches with
beta, however, my gelding has a low set tail so had to
cover the beta part in sheepskin so he wouldn't get rubbed
on the top of his croup.  The neoprene part is super soft. 
I've seen Gail's though and they are nice but I have never
really needed to try anything different.

heidi


--- Karen Sullivan <greymare56@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have tried a few cruppers and now the only ones I will
> use are the
> ones made by Gail Hought of Hought endurance tack...all
> the moulded
> neoprene-type ones just see too hard, or are shaped too
> narrow for the
> width of the tail.
>
> Gail makes a very comfortable crupper which is three-fold
> soft leather
> over biothane, so it takes on the shape of the tail, with
> leather against
> the skin....
>
> I even sent her a zilco crupper and had her replace the
> tail part with her
> leather three fold....
>
> I have all my horses in a crupper; consider it a piece of
> safety equipment....as
> we do a lot of hills.  I start them with the crupper by
> making sure I
> can slide my hand under their tail without them freaking
> out; some
> nice scratching....then I
> saddle and put them in stall with goodies in a
> feeder....slip crupper
> under tail but unfastened.....a couple of times to get
> them used to
> whole idea..then loosely buckled while they are saddled
> and
> eating.....to leaving it on while ponied, etc.
>
> I have it a bit snug, as when they are moving usually
> their tails are
> lifted a bit....
>
> Seems to be working well for all of them...
> Karen
>
> On 8/30/07, heidi larson <ribbitttreefrog@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > I like the neoprene ones that Moss Rock Endurance has
> and
> > my horse had his put on while lunging, very loose, a
> few
> > bucks and it seemed fine, rode in it on the flat,
> totally
> > loose, kept reaching back and grabbing and tighting
> myself,
> > no reaction, went to some slight downhill, still loose,
> no
> > reaction, then tigher and steeper and he never really
> > seemed to care.  Two horses have been trained to
> cruppers
> > that way.  They seem to not mind if you do the training
> > incrementally.
> >
> > heidi
> >
> > --- "Debbie K." <dakota.charm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello, Can you guys give me tips on using cruppers
> with
> > > an endurance
> > > saddle, my saddle is slipping on downhills, so I
> think I
> > > need to get a
> > > crupper, I have used them years ago for driving and
> with
> > > a bitting
> > > rig, So I think I remember how to introduce one for
> the
> > > first time,
> > > but that is about it, how tight do I have it, how
> much
> > > weight can a
> > > rider be when using a Crupper? Is there a better one
> or
> > > style that I
> > > should get???
> > >
> > > Thank you...
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