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[RC] Answers to more questions... - Jay RandleHi AllBruce wrote: Jay, since you ride in a system that functions under the conditions of our proposed rule, it seems that you are one of the few in this discussion who can speak from experience and not conjecture. How do you feel the system is working, and what changes would you foresee if pulse recovery criteria were loosened up to allow 60 minutes to pulse down? Do many of your riders wish they had more time to crew, vet in and recover? Bruce Weary Dianne wrote: And don't forget to include a rough estimate of the number of riders that ride under your Standard veterinary check rules vs the number that ride under the vet-gate-into-hold veterinary check rules. Oh... also and what is your death/entry ratio? Jay's answers: Bruce, our AERA system works well. I don't believe that anyone here would really welcome a 60 minute end-of-ride pulse down, as I believe that riders would see that as a backward step in horse welfare and management. Although there are certainly times when everyone wishes they had more time to crew their horses, I think you'd find that those times are when the horse is having problems, and is not recovering suitably. In that case, we know that there's a problem, and expect the Vet out! From personal experience, if a horse cannot pulse down within 30 minutes there is a BIG problem! Most horses in my experience pulse down within 10-15 minutes, and the additional time before Vetting is a bonus, allowing the horse to eat (increasing gut sounds) and recover better overall. The additional 30 minutes after the Vet check allows horses to eat, rest, relax and get ready to go out again. Dianne, 100% of our riders ride under the AERA system. There is very rarely any other option in AERA rides. In Queensland, out of 41 AERA rides this coming season, only one ride (of 120km - 75 miles) is VGIH. We also have three FEI rides scheduled for this coming season, two x 160km (100 mile) and one x 110km (70 mile). Those three rides will, of course, be VGIH. FEI rides, although gradually becoming more accepted, are still looked at with suspicion by many of our AERA members. (They are my preference, however!) I don't know our death/entry ratio, but am hoping to get this information from one of our Vets in the near future.... someone else from RideCamp has also asked me that question! Let me say that in 6 years of attending rides (over 150 different rides) I have personally known of 4 deaths. Two of these were in the same ride (in 2004), when 1 horse fell in a patch of quicksand on the beach and broke his leg, and another horse was injured in a different fall and had to be euthanised. The third was when a horse was kicked at the beginning of a ride by a passing horse, and sustained a broken leg, and the fourth was when a horse developed colic post-ride and was euthanised. Our average entry at rides that I attend would be 80 riders in the 50 mile and 50 in the 25 mile rides (they are held on the same day). So, an average of 130 horses at every ride. Best regards Jay Randle SPLENDACREST ENDURANCE TRAINING www.freewebs.com/splendacrest _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588&_t=757768878&_r=endtext_simple&_m=EXT =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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