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RE: [RC] 2007 Fort Howes - David LeBlancIt is actually quite common - quite a while back, I looked at several hundred ride results, and on average the 50 mile riders run 15% faster over roughly twice the distance (and this was a statistically valid sample size). Your 1st place "racing LD'er", if they were able to hold the same pace as they did the 25, typically would end up about 15th in the 50. The cases where the LD distance had faster speeds were very uncommon. While I personally don't see anything wrong with a quick LD, ***if your horse is in condition***, this is something to caution beginning riders over - if you're running up front in an LD, you probably started up front and stayed there. You do that in a 50, only to find you're in the big leagues now, and your results may not be what you wanted. I'm glad that when I moved up to 50's, we were smart enough to go slow most of the year. I had an interesting experience very early on - we were doing a fairly quick 50 one day, it was getting warm, and we were dragging a big about 10 miles from the finish. Along comes a 100 mile rider, whose horse had gone close to twice as far that day, and we tagged along for a while - his horse was like a metronome - just kept chugging along in a nice trot, uphill and down. We eventually had to let him go, as he had more horse at 70 miles or so than we did at 40+ miles. -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Truman Prevatt Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:33 PM To: Patty P Cc: Ridecamp Alexandria Subject: Re: [RC] 2007 Fort Howes Patty P wrote: Is it common for the 50 mile winner to beat the winning time of the 25 mile ride? Probably not, but it is quite typical that the 50's run their 25 mile splits faster than the 25 mile event is run. Next time just divide the 50 times in half and compare them to the 25 mile times. This winning 50 was running twice as fast as the winning 25. Now for something more interesting - multiply the 25 mile winning time by 4 (16:16). and compare that to the 100's. You have to go down to the 22 second horse to finish the 100 to find a time slower than 16:16. In the FEI division there were no times slower than 16:16. So the both the long race and the middle race were faster - by a large amount than the short race. Truman -- "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong" Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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