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Re: Fwd: Re: [RC] Placerville decreased wildlife - Susan

I find it interesting that everyone is alarmed about Global Warming and the polar bears, but, they want coyotes, bears, and mountain lions out of "their" trails and backyards. California is cutting down trees to an alarming degree to build homes, but, then people complain about the increased animal action in those new neighborhoods and the old neighborhoods complain about  the increased wind, dust and errosion because the tress are gone. I hope one day we learn and correct what we are doing to our world. It's not just the gas it's what we are doing locally that will made a big difference. I doubt however it will be in my life time.

Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Proe
Sent: Jun 6, 2007 9:50 AM
To: liberty4640@xxxxxxxxx, ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [RC] Placerville decreased wildlife

Hi Folks;
 
I would bring up that lions are a protected species in CA. Before anyone makes comments that may impact a endangered species they might want to do a little home work as Mountain Lions are an indicator specis as to the health of the Eco-System.
 
We may all wish to protect more Open Space for critters and for recreation instead of additional homes and the influx of some people that do not know or care about the Open Space areas that we all enjoy and need for our own happy lives as well as the
critters and watersheds.
 
Just some thoughts and a little advise generally.
Steven
 


 
----- Original Message ----
From: D'Arcy Demianoff-Thompson <liberty4640@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 1:47:32 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [RC] Placerville decreased wildlife

Great information from Steve on how to move Mt. Lions
from your area.  Thanks Steve!


--- Steve Shaw <sshaw@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


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    The best thing would be to increase hunting of
deer and turkeys.Hunters (venison eaters) would
welcome that and then the lions wouldbecome more
travelers.  Yes, if the are a lot of tame deer around
thelions can have a field day and stick around.  But
since they are nottagged (which would be an
interesting study) you can't tell if they arethe same
animals or just overlapping territories, which can
happen withlots of deer around.
Increased deer hunting would also save a lot of auto
repairs! Many autokilled deer end up on the lion's
menu and keep them around an area.Another option is to
let sporters with dogs chase the lions for fun.The
dogs eventually tree the lion, the people show up and
yell at thelion and then leave.  The lions aren't hurt
but they become very timidabout people and dogs, which
can keep them away and somewhat safer.
I actually enjoy the few times I ever get to see them.
They are not thethreat that is usually perceived (now
that my puppy is so muchbigger!)  Someone killed a
female on my property and a week later I sawher two
cubs, about bobcat size, trying to make it on their
own.  I amsadly sure they didn't.

Bounce this to ridecamp if you like....

steve



D&#39;Arcy L. Demianoff-Thompson  
liberty4640@xxxxxxxxx




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