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Where in the study (and which one) did you read about the combined  
body weight?  I just re-read both studies, and I couldn't find it.

The second point that I saw was about cannon-bone circumference.  The  
size of the cannon bone does not increase proportionally to weight,  
so larger horses were more at risk of being pulled for lameness.

On May 13, 2007, at 2:58 PM, heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> I am coming WAY late into this discussion, but what Susan's study  
> found was that there was no correlation between the horse/rider  
> weight ratio and completion at the weight ratios that they had to  
> work with in the study (which went as high as having the rider/tack  
> weight being as much as 31% of the horse weight).
>
> Susan found two factors that correlated with noncompletion.  One  
> was body score--horses with low body scores had a higher chance of  
> being pulled for metabolic factors.  The second was COMBINED horse/ 
> rider weight--if the COMBINED total (NOT the ratio!) exceeded 1200  
> lbs, then the horse had a higher chance of being pulled for  
> biomechanical reasons.
>
> In other words (working with the second reason) a HWT rider really  
> needs to look for a well-conformed and sturdy horse capable of  
> carrying weight but whose own weight does not cause the "team"  
> together to weigh more than 1200 lbs.  A rider tacking in at 250  
> lbs. should be looking for horses that weigh at most around 950  
> lbs.  The huge horses are more apt to have problems unless they  
> have lighter riders.
>
> Heidi
>
>
> > hmmm ... posted before I read it.  This one says -- I think -- that
> > the ratio of rider weight to horse body weight is more of a function
> > of decreasing condition score.  In a really quick read, I think it is
> > saying that condition score is more important than the rider weight/
> > horse weight ration, but I don't think it discounts it completely.
> >
> > It is on Susan Garlinghouse' site:
> >
> > http://shady-acres.com/susan/tevis98.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 8, 2007, at 7:53 AM, k s swigart wrote:
> >
> > > Heide Helly said:
> > >
> > > > Realize that horses carrying more than about
> > > > 23% of their body weight don't finish a 50,
> > > > according to one study.
> > >
> > > Can anybody refer me to this study.  It does not agree with my own
> > > experiences.
> > >
> > > kat
> > > Orange County, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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