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RE: [RC] RC.RC:Thanks ,Leonard - Leonard.LiesensI was not meaning a study with horses from abrod. No no. I was meaning that you guys in Malaysia with your imported australian horses gathering more information on competing under tropical climate. I was also saying that I would be very interested to see how our horses (trained in Europe, UAE, US, Australia) would perform in Malaysia after a 3 weeks acclimatizing. Now does US tackle endurance with more 'scientific' approach... Well, I don't think so. There is just one thing for sure it is the fact that forums in english are more active than the ones in french. This gives you the impression that science is more developped in Uncle Sam country. Please do not take things personnally (I mean you and US riders listening), but one has just to look at the results. I was very interested in Tom's and Susan's debate and I admire those persons (I will always remember the numerous emails exchanged with Tom helping me to save Orfeo when he got a severe tendinitis in 2000) but... Come on... They never rode at high level... We have to learn from their scientific approach but the reciprocity is also true! The endurance thing happens on the horse and on the trail, not at the keyboard, would they be qwerty or azerty... Once again, please do not take it badly :-) Leonard, Belgium -----Original Message----- From: Nik Isahak Abdullah [mailto:drnikisahak@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:33 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RC.RC:Thanks ,Leonard Hi Leonard , I don't believe a study involving a couple of horses from Australia,UAE and Europe on our soil ,even after 3 weeks of quarantine,could answer the million dollar question of whether 'to be or not to be ' with respect to EL in tropical Malaysia .This certainly would put the organisers a couple of million dollars down ,definitely yes . The French position with respect to EL, one can suspect is just not based on 'pure scientific fact ' because hard science here is rathered blurred by other subjective parameters such as performance ,terrains ,weather etc etc compounded further by the fact that electrolyte imbalance as determined by the simple measurement of plasma or serum electrolyte do not correlate well with the quantum of total electrolyte loss .If this be so I am sure the Americans would have been in the forefront of" non usage of EL" as they are a more scientific based people than you Europeans .I hope I am not igniting a 'transatlantic war' with this statement Leonard !I mean you try reading Susan Garlinghouse 's prolific endurance.net debate with the late T.i Ivers in the archives on conditioning ,nutrition etc etc you can go bonkers.They discuss molecules and pathways while the likes of you and me we are still at subjective performance ! At the end of the day why are you' Frenchies' now abandoning the ELECTROLYTES? Do you know something that we do not know?I am just a small time endurance rider from a small time endurance country and thus not to' shy' to ask but I am sure this is the burning question many big time riders from big time endurance nations want to know .And you guys certainly have something up your sleeves as you guys are not doing too badly in FEI endurance front . Happy New Year to you Leonard Nik _________________________________________________________________ Find just what you are after with the more precise, more powerful Windos Live Search. http://search.msn.com.my/ Try it now. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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