Subject: Re: [RC] The Sheath Cleaning Song - Rassiga, MD, Anne-----Original Message----- From: Ridecamp Digest [mailto:ridecamp-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:24 AM To: ridecamp-d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC-Digest] Vol: 03.3551 ============================================================ ==== ==== Ridecamp Vol: 03.3551 ==== ==== For more information: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp ==== ==== Post message: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== Subscribe: ridecamp-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== Unsubscribe: ridecamp-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== List owner: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== ============================================================ From: "Amber B Fort" <knighthawkranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] names for horses From: WRSINOSKY@xxxxxxx - Subject: [RC] Cantering on a loose rein From: "Debbie Kirchner" <dakota.charm@xxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] hearing cougar on trail From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Snacks/drinks at a No Frills ride in the Northeast? Advice needed. From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] The Sheath Cleaning Song From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] names for horses From: "Dawn Simas" <dawnsimas67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] cougar sounds From: Vchorsegal@xxxxxxx - Subject: [RC] Worrying in Advance & Dogs From: "Winter, Randy or Cheryl" <cherylrandy@xxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) From: "Sisu West Ranch" <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) From: "Debbie Kirchner" <dakota.charm@xxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] cougar sounds From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Fw: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? From: "rides2far@xxxxxxxx" <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] The Name From: Rae Callaway <tallcarabians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? From: "osberg" <osberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Amber B Fort" <knighthawkranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] names for horses <html><div style='background-color:'><P>Horse names are funny thing and the way they sometimes tell us what they want to be called. The stories can be amazing.</P> <P>Jerry, the stallion I ride, his secret name is 'Tyrone'. He was dubbed that when he was sent for 30 days to rode in the woods and on cattle after I got him green broke. My friend had a lanky young man riding him and called me after about 3 days. He was so uncordinated (as a 3 year old) that everytime he went to canter with a rider, he would fall down (too busy looking at everything). He skint his head up a bit, but other than that was fine. </P> <P>Then he was tied to the cow pens while they were working the cattle. Jerry decided to untie himself and 'agravate' his neigbor (an older HUGE gelding that was minding his own business). They (the guys) were keeping an eye on him (he couldn't go anywhere). He grabbed the geldings saddle blanket, the gelding gave him the 'quit' look. He kept it up till the gelding had untied himself and decided to 'school' Jerry in manners. He grabbed Jerry by the napp of the neck and shook him till help arrived (for Jerry) to tie them back up. Jerry then decided he could stand tied and mind his manners. They called him Tyrone after that.</P> <P>Now years later, while I was pregnant and unable to ride, I go out to discover that Jerry has managed to break off a front tooth on the top. No idea how he managed it. He wasn't turned out with anyone to get kicked or anything. So now I guess he has the 'look' to go along with his secret name, Tyron the boxer.<BR></P><BR><BR><BR> <DIV><EM><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif" color=#0033cc><STRONG><FONT size=2>Amber & David Fort </FONT><BR></STRONG><FONT size=4><A href="http://www.knighthawkranch.com/"><STRONG>Knight Hawk Ranch <BR></STRONG></A></FONT><FONT size=1>"<STRONG>Performance with out parameters</STRONG>" <BR><FONT color=#000099>Home to the Black Arabian stallions: <BR>Kaysa Jerry (72% CMK) <BR>Black Streak (Pure Polish)</FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1> From: <I>Geana Jones <rideforever1001@xxxxxxxxx></I><BR>To: <I>ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</I><BR>Subject: <I>[RC] names for horses</I><BR>Date: <I>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:38:24 -0800 (PST)</I><BR>MIME-Version: <I>1.0</I><BR>Received: <I>from www.endurance.net ([207.141.24.164]) by bay0-mc11-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:44:31 -0800</I><BR>Received: <I>from web50811.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.106] by seahorse.fsr.com (SMTPD32-8.00) id AFE31E60005E; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:36:19 -0800</I><BR>Received: <I>(qmail 77916 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2006 14:38:24 -0000</I><BR>Received: <I>from [204.177.185.146] by web50811.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:38:24 PST</I><BR><BR> <DIV>I believe in so much in letting the horse tell or in most cases inform you what his name should be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div></html> Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: WRSINOSKY@xxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Cantering on a loose rein Ah, Bruce, I think I've ridden your horse, or at least one of his buddies, at WalMart. They are truly wondrous steeds. No time spent training, none of that stuff, but I understand they are a bit difficult to load in a trailer. Something about their backlegs sticking out and the coinslot getting stuck in the door. An yeah, I've owned horses that you could throw a lead over their necks and they jumped right on. I've had horses I could ride with a halter and lead, just by leg pressure. But they have not been all my horses, by any stretch of the imagination. Some are just a little bit harder to work with than others. At least for me. Doimas knows how to do just about anything. Trouble is, he has a very stubborn streak that will sometimes come to the forefront and he just decides, "No." on a particular day. No reason, except he feels like it or doesn't, whichever is the case. Sebastian has been to Parelli classes. I was told after the third class that I really had my work cut out for me with this guy because of past abuse. The easiest horse I've had the pleasure of training is my BLM mustang mare. Could it possibly be that I didn't have to deal with old behaviors firmly ingrained by a previous owner? Yes, I'm a firm believer that you can get your horse to do almost anything, given time and the proper training. Doimas goes in and out of a trailer like it's second nature....most of the time. It's the other times I find annoying. Get off the pony and let me take the reins for awhile, Bruce. I just love that old WalMart guy! Cindy ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Debbie Kirchner" <dakota.charm@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] hearing cougar on trail On 2/27/06, Ridecamp Guest <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Please Reply to: Stacy msmots13@xxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx My boy started blowing and snorted so bad he got a bloody nose. I woul= d not have known what that sound meant, had it not been for Dawn Simas' web site, www.wildaboutcats.org. She posted it about a month ago so people could hear cougar sounds. Poor guy, I am proud he did not just dump me and leave me for a Darwin Award. Thanks again, Dawn, for posting your website, if any of you live in couga= r country, you need to hear it. -Stacy-who is sometimes not as smart as her horse. HI Stacy, I am so glad you did not get attacked...there is such a fine line there isn't there??? we want to trust our horses, but they also need to kno= w what to really be afraid of... I tired to find the sounds on the site you posted... but apparently I am blind, I could not find it... the site came up, but I could not find the recordings... could you point me in the right direction please? Debbie in SE MN Energy and Weight Loss Too!!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Snacks/drinks at a No Frills ride in the Northeast? Advice needed. In the early years of our Swanton Pacific ride, there was a lovely older = woman living near the first vet check who baked cinnamon rolls and sold = them to the riders. I never heard a complaint or criticism about that. = It's rider's choice, I should think, whether they want to buy or not. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Levasseur To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:35 AM Subject: [RC] Snacks/drinks at a No Frills ride in the Northeast? = Advice needed. My new ride in August is being hosted at the barn where I board = Zephyr. The barn owner's sister sent me the following email. "I was just thinking. I belong to the Aussie rescue group here in = Maine and we are always looking for ways to raise money for the group. = Will there be a need for a refreshment stand the day of the ride? Our = group has run stands at other events such as dog expos, sporting events, = and other animal related gatherings. We could sell soda, juice, bottled = water ,homemade treats and handout info to people interested in dog = rescue or adoption. The group carries it's own insurance too. Let me = know if this is anything your interested in." I do not have the volunteers to handle meals so I was not planning on = including dinner on Friday or Saturday night in the ride fee, although I = may order pizzas for an extra fee. I asked her if they could provide = Friday dinner at an extra fee and Saturday dinner which I would pay for = out of the ride fees, but she said that was beyond their capabilities. I don't want my riders to have to pay out-of-pocket for things like = that at a ride... I'd rather not offer them at all (which was my plan = originally). Then I thought about paying their group out of ride funds = for the kinds of drinks/snacks she's offering, but if I'm not having = meals I feel funny about having those types of things... wouldn't that = make it NOT a No Frills ride? I'd like to help her out but don't want to offend anyone who comes to = my ride! Can anyone think of a way I can help her group? Feel free to = email me privately at sharon1359 at spamcop dot net. Thanks, Sharon Levasseur Manager of the Hot Toddy Hustle (Maine) www.zegifts.com/HTH/hot-toddy-hustle.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] The Sheath Cleaning Song This one went into my Humor and Philosophy file. It's hilarious. Barbara On central coast CA where it is still raining and raining and raining. = Power out last night because of 45 mph wind gusts, along with the rain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ag47xAu49@xxxxxxx To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: [RC] The Sheath Cleaning Song =E2=80=9CTHE SHEATH CLEANING SONG=E2=80=9D = = = (as seen on Pasofinos.com; submitted by a Barbara C =E2=80=93 give = credit where it=E2=80=99s due!!) = = = = = = Sing it to the tune of "Hello Mother, Hello Father" from camp song = = = How's it hangin'? = So much cleaner. = Aren't you glad I = washed your wiener? = I'll admit it's = kinda creepy = that I had to stick my arm up in your pee-pee. = = It was sticky. = It was gunky. = It felt icky. = It smelled funky. = It was cruddy, = it was crusty-- = when you stuck it out, it creaked like it was rusty. = = After half an = hour of toilin' = and of squirtin' = baby oil in, = you're as fresh there = as a daisy. = Either this means I love you or else I'm crazy!!! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? Your approach is fine, or you might add that if the dogs cause a horse-related accident, the owners may find themselves in legal trouble. Or you could just be very sweet and recommend people confine or leave their dogs at home, just for this one time. "It's very important to you that all things go as well as possible and many riders do not want dogs around or their horses could be very upset by having the dogs around." Hopefully, the dog owners will cooperate....... Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Levasseur" <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? This summer I will be managing a new ride that will be hosted at the barn where I board Zephyr. The barn owners have something like 8 dogs, mostly Australian Shepherds, and they're allowed to run free whenever the owners are outside. They're pretty well-behaved but a few of them like to jump up on people, or try to get people to play with their toys. The field where riders will camp isn't right next to the barn areas but the vetting and such will be done in the outdoor arena right next to the barn. Tact isn't one of my strongest points so I need your help. How do I tactfully ask them to find some way to confine the dogs for two days?? I was thinking I might approach it from the point of view that there will be a lot of excited horses and I want to avoid the dogs getting hurt. Any other suggestions? It's going to be tough to keep these dogs in the house, they're so used to being outside running around for 12 hours a day! Thanks, Sharon Levasseur, Maine Manager of the Hot Toddy Hustle Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] names for horses Many years ago, we had a new filly born on our ranch. She went unnamed = for about 3 months. One day I was riding the last day of a 5-day ride. = I was trotting along briskly on a road across a desert basin, when = suddenly a jackrabbit dashed across in front of me. Instantly, my mind = created a scenario, a collection of images that went like this: = rabbit..speed..bird.. hawk (fast bird)...Ladyhawke (my favorite movie), and there was her = name. I'm convinced it was a message sent to me. Barbara Ooooops, there goes our power ----- Original Message ----- From: Geana Jones To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:38 AM Subject: [RC] names for horses I believe in so much in letting the horse tell or in most cases inform = you what his name should be. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Dawn Simas" <dawnsimas67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] cougar sounds Debbie, go to www.wildaboutcats.org and click on the "Our Cats" button. Most all the cats that have been here past and present have sounds on their individual pages. Apache is our cougar. Ms. Dawn Simas Director - Wild About Cats Wild Feline Conservation, Education, and Rescue www.wildaboutcats.org ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Vchorsegal@xxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Worrying in Advance & Dogs Hey- I think you should just harness them to the water wagon truck ! This way they can be useful, get their exercise, and not be loose. 8 is the perfect number for this. By the way, I have an Aussie mix I can bring as a spare ! - Heidi Helly ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Winter, Randy or Cheryl" <cherylrandy@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) Barbara wrote, "I was on the right side of the highway, the proper side for me to be riding on," I have thought when roadriding the saying is, "feet go with feet and wheels go with wheels." Meaning bicycles travel the same way and on the same side of the road as cars and walkers and horses go opposite traffic." I don't want a vehicle coming up from behind me. I want to face cars so my horse can see them coming. I can also look the drivers in the face and gauge their intentions this way. Any other thoughts or those that know the law, even though law and practicality don't always coincide. Randy Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Sisu West Ranch" <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? "...that there will be a lot of excited horses and I want to avoid the dogs getting hurt. Any other suggestions?..." If they are like other herding dogs I know, they chase horses all of the time. The owner has most likely given up and accepts the fact that they get kicked by horses. Ed Ed & Wendy Hauser 2994 Mittower Road Victor, MT 59875 (406) 642-9640 ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) By Maine law, horses must follow the same laws as vehicular traffic (cars/trucks and bicycles). We're also not allowed to ride on sidewalks for that reason. So I ride on the right. But for safety reasons, when common sense says ride on the left or on the sidewalk, I do! -Sharon L. Quoting "Winter, Randy or Cheryl" <cherylrandy@xxxxxxx>: Barbara wrote, "I was on the right side of the highway, the proper side for me to be riding on," I have thought when roadriding the saying is, "feet go with feet and wheels go with wheels." Meaning bicycles travel the same way and on the same side of the road as cars and walkers and horses go opposite traffic." I don't want a vehicle coming up from behind me. I want to face cars so my horse can see them coming. I can also look the drivers in the face and gauge their intentions this way. Any other thoughts or those that know the law, even though law and practicality don't always coincide. Randy Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Debbie Kirchner" <dakota.charm@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] cougar sounds Hi Dawn, Thank you, but I can not get my computer to play them now... darn... it downloads, but then no sound... I tried to fill out the form to send this private, it did not come up from the link... is this a technical difficulty day for me or what??? Debbie in SE MN weight loss made simple On 2/28/06, Dawn Simas <dawnsimas67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Debbie, go to www.wildaboutcats.org and click on the "Our Cats" button. Most all the cats that have been here past and present have sounds on the= ir individual pages. Apache is our cougar. Ms. Dawn Simas Director - Wild About Cats Wild Feline Conservation, Education, and Rescue www.wildaboutcats.org ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Fw: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? Another interesting possibility would be to create a pen of mesh wire that dogs could not get out of. Then, if dogs show up, put them into the pen and leave them there for the duration of the event. Of course, have water in the pen, but otherwise.....nothing. Maybe then the owners would get the necessary point. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Sharon Levasseur" <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? Your approach is fine, or you might add that if the dogs cause a horse-related accident, the owners may find themselves in legal trouble. Or you could just be very sweet and recommend people confine or leave their dogs at home, just for this one time. "It's very important to you that all things go as well as possible and many riders do not want dogs around or their horses could be very upset by having the dogs around." Hopefully, the dog owners will cooperate....... Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Levasseur" <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this??This summer I will be managing a new ride that will be hosted at the barn where I board Zephyr. The barn owners have something like 8 dogs, mostly Australian Shepherds, and they're allowed to run free whenever the owners are outside. They're pretty well-behaved but a few of them like to jump up on people, or try to get people to play with their toys. The field where riders will camp isn't right next to the barn areas but the vetting and such will be done in the outdoor arena right next to the barn. Tact isn't one of my strongest points so I need your help. How do I tactfully ask them to find some way to confine the dogs for two days?? I was thinking I might approach it from the point of view that there will be a lot of excited horses and I want to avoid the dogs getting hurt. Any other suggestions? It's going to be tough to keep these dogs in the house, they're so used to being outside running around for 12 hours a day! Thanks, Sharon Levasseur, Maine Manager of the Hot Toddy Hustle Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!!Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "rides2far@xxxxxxxx" <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] The Name I've been known to change a name weeks after I've chosen one...but for n= ow...barring any changes of heart..my boy's named "Gunner". Thought of i= t myself on the way home, along with quite a few others but when he back= ed out of the trailer Gunner is what I called him. The kids here at scho= ol voted for that...and "Diesel". Diesel sounded pretty cool, but didn't= roll of my tongue so the rest of you are welcome to it. Wasn't sure he = was rugged enough for "Gunner" but after watching him trotting around th= e field yesterday I do believe he's going to look pretty buff when he ge= ts in shape. P.S. As for the SERA rule...why doesn't everyone forget about it right n= ow, and if you really care put a post-it on your fridge to bring it back= up just before the SERA convention next year...when swaying someone's o= pinion matters. Angie Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Rae Callaway <tallcarabians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? I've had Aussies and Border Collies. It's not that difficult to teach them not to chase the horses. I certainly didn't give up and accept that they would get kicked. I trained them not to chase at all. Rae Tall C Arabians - Central Sisu West Ranch <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: "...that there will be a lot of excited horses and I want to avoid the dogs getting hurt. Any other suggestions?..." If they are like other herding dogs I know, they chase horses all of the time. The owner has most likely given up and accepts the fact that they get kicked by horses. Ed Ed & Wendy Hauser 2994 Mittower Road Victor, MT 59875 (406) 642-9640 ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "osberg" <osberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Worrying in advance... how do I deal with this?? I've had Aussies and Border Collies. It's not that difficult to teach = them not to chase the horses. I certainly didn't >give up and accept = that they would get kicked. I trained them not to chase at all. Ok...Now for the flip side of this statement ... How can you teach a = horse not to strike out at and chase dogs? Any ideas? Betty ~ In Minnesota ~ http://www.rhythmbeads.com/ = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-== -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-== -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: = 2/28/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) You may be right, but I thought the CA DMV rules indicated that riders used the right side of the road. If someone has a handy DMV rule book and can look it up, let me know. I'm willing to stand corrected, if it is so. Of course, that was a LONG time ago and I don't ride on highways anymore. I don't even ride on our county road anymore. We have enough trails so we can get off the road, but we do have to cross it in some places. On weekends the "rice rocket" riders come down from the San Francisco Bay area and use our twisting, turning, occasionally steep county road as their private race course. We can hear them coming from miles away. We just don't ride there any more. I find this very inconsiderate, as our county road through the valley is also a residential road. They go through very fast, and there could be any one of the following on the road: children, on foot or horseback; cattle; hikers, runners or walkers; or a downed tree. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Winter, Randy or Cheryl" <cherylrandy@xxxxxxx> To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [RC] road riding- crazy drivers/ crazy rider :) Barbara wrote, "I was on the right side of the highway, the proper side for me to be riding on," I have thought when roadriding the saying is, "feet go with feet and wheels go with wheels." Meaning bicycles travel the same way and on the same side of the road as cars and walkers and horses go opposite traffic." I don't want a vehicle coming up from behind me. I want to face cars so my horse can see them coming. I can also look the drivers in the face and gauge their intentions this way. Any other thoughts or those that know the law, even though law and practicality don't always coincide. Randy Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! 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