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Being a 4H leader myself I am a firm believer in the horse being the 
kid's project - not the parent's. Parent's are allowed to watch or help 
at meetings but not ride their kid's horse. I even occasionally have 
parents bring their own horses and ride with the group. The owner of the 
horses and I had a long discussion about these things and finding the 
right match. I agree with all who say an unexperienced rider isn't a 
good match, that's just common sense. Does anyone have a contact at 
Finlay in Ohio who may be interested in matching up a responsible 
student with a horse, possibly MSU or any other ideas? We don't just 
need a good home we need someone who is going to do something possitive 
with the horse(s).
Thanks for all the input, I've been working so many hours this week I 
haven't been able to make any progress.
Kari

>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Stacy Sadar <mailto:stacy_sadar@xxxxxxxxx>
>     To: Chrystal Woodhouse <mailto:Chrystal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
>     khanes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:khanes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:35 PM
>     Subject: Re: [RC] Free Horses ...
>
>     I've been reading this post, see the concerns of others, and have
>     some questions...
>      
>     What ever happened to a 4H kid raising and training a horse for 4H? 
>     Or do they all just buy a dead broke horse for big bucks, pay a
>     trainer to do everything then compete against the good ole farm
>     kid like they seem to do around here?  Based on everyone's
>     concerns about Kari's friend's free horses, seems that 4H isn't
>     what it was when I was growing up.  It's become another kid event
>     for only those who can afford to hire a trainer and have the
>     trainer do everything with the kid jumping on to show....not the
>     way I grew up.  It was hands off by everyone including your parents.  
>      
>     Just a few thoughts to ponder.
>     Stacy
>
>     Chrystal Woodhouse <Chrystal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>         Kari- I don't know Heidi but I have to join  her in her
>         concern , I know many talented young riders, I would NEVER
>         trust one of my unstarted  horses with them, I love my young
>         rider friends AND my horses too much. Young horses can hurt
>         people and as experienced teenagers can be they are typically
>         experienced at RIDING not actually training a new horse, so
>         what happens to the horse if it doesn't get correct training?
>         Ends up at an auction as unrideable in 5 years ( this just
>         happened this summer to two horses,and one of the horses who
>         had been given to a "good"home 8 years ago, was never trained
>         well  &  8 years later ended up at auction went for meat,:, he
>         was only 7 years old -(  I heard about it two weeks later and
>         was devastated.These two horses were Arab's with good
>         bloodlines but because they were not trained and adults were
>         not valuable to anyone)
>         My neighbour who is 16 and just about the best young rider I
>         have ever seen was in a very bad wreck with her TB a year ago,
>         too much horse and she doesn't have  enough experience with
>         horses  ( yet :-)) .
>         Anyway I don't think Heidi  was trying to be rude I think she
>         was concerned about kids and/or horses being hurt in the deal.
>         It IS a great offer, I even thought about driving down to
>         Michigan to check them out myself!:-)   I hope your friend
>         finds great homes for them  ( but to adults).:-)
>         Chrystal
>
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>         Kari Hanes <khanes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Sent by: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         11/29/2006 08:23 PM
>         Please respond to
>         khanes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>         To
>         ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         cc
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>         Subject
>         Re: [RC]   Free Horses ...
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>         As my original post stated we did discuss "experienced 4Hers
>         or junior
>         endurance riders". She is not opposed to an adult, she just
>         likes the
>         idea of helping a child or teen.
>
>         These horses have been started as this is a show barn and they
>         have been
>         shown as weanlings/yearlings at halter. The horses are in Western
>         Michigan and I just felt that ride camp would be a good place
>         to start
>         looking for suggestions. I'm sorry if this is perceived as a
>         mistake - I
>         took it as a heck of an opportunity for the right person.
>         Kari
>
>         heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>         > My only reaction is that in my experience, it is a mistake
>         to put
>         > unstarted horses with kids.  With some occasional
>         exceptions, kids
>         > should have well-started horses with some experience, and young
>         > horses should go to experienced people who can start them
>         properly.
>         >
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