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Re: FW: FW: [RC] Over ridden? Clarification - kimfuess

Tammy,
   Since you quoted my last paragraph in your post below, I am going to explain why some of us have responded the way we did to your post.  Here is a direct quote from your first paragraph in your original post:
 
"A lot of people, as usual have too strong options with very little experience about FEI and 100 mile rides in general.  I think like everything else, you need to have some experience before you express yourself.  After reading some of these options I looked up their ride history.  One rider that seems to express themselves so much has started 10 100's and only completed 3 and none of these rides were FEI rides.  I would say that's not a good enough record to be telling a lot of other riders and organizations to be changing there ways at this point.'
 
In your very first paragraph you state that some people have "suggested" strong options who have very little experience in 100 mile rides in general.  You also state that one needs experience before expressing ones self.  Then you go on to actually list somebody's ride record indicating a completion record in 100s and that none of the rides were FEI.  You yourself indicate that that person's ride record was not good enough to tell other riders and organizations "how" or to even change.  Certainly from this interpretation of what you wrote and from your "direct" quote above, you can understand some of the responses you received.
 
But, I appreciate that you clarified that it was the "option" or the suggestion you didn't like and not the experience level of the person making that suggestion.  Not sure which option it was as you didn't mention it specifically.There have been so many in this discussion from shortening distances, to making a three day event, to giving penalties for non completion of teams, to giving penalties to individual non completers.  I also didn't agree with all the "options" or suggestions posted on ridecamp although most of the options did relate  to improving the health and safety of our horses.
 
Maybe this discussion on ridecamp will be the catalyst for "experienced riders doing it right" to have discussion on the subject.  Certainly many of opinions expressed have been from what I consider "experienced riders" so I certainly see this as a good start.
 
Kim Fuess
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: FW: FW: [RC] Over ridden?

In a message dated 11/20/2006 6:53:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, jfhrome@xxxxxxx writes:

If you only want to hear the opinions from the few AERC riders that have actually attended a Pan Am or WEC that is one thing.  And if this is the case, this is probably not a great topic of discussion on a general endurance forum.  But most AERC riders have attended a local FEI ride because many are held in conjunction with AERC rides.  If that doesn't count in terms of being able to be part of the discussion I understand that also.

 

Kim Fuess

I'm going to repeat what I said on my first posts and at the closing of my post, just to get this back on track.
 
"Some changes need to be made but lets talk it over with experienced riders that are out there doing it right.  How are they doing this right?...and how can we apply this to an organization to enforce more safety to the horses?"
 
I never said I didn't want to hear any opinions.  It's the stong options that seem to me way out of hand.  I would like to hear more on our options to apply health & safety for our horses.  Not bash and punish riders over looking at paperwork on pulls.
 
Tammy

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