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Where do you come up with a difference of opinion here??  Cindy never suggested that she would take a pasture potato and do what you are suggesting.  What she stated was the bald truth--a horse that is conditioned to do 15 miles at a reasonable pace can finish a 25-miler comfortably within the time limit.  Totally different statement than what you are attributing to her.  (And I didn't trim this post, because I wanted to leave Cindy's statement intact below so that you can re-read it if necessary.)

 

BTW, I HAVE done a 6k myself in my younger years with absolutely no conditioning--not fast, but I finished and I was fine.  For a healthy, active individual it isn't really that big a deal.  (And I'm NOT a "runner type" either.)  I don't propose to take unconditioned horses to do 25's, but I'd say that many horses that are not regularly ridden but are turned out 24/7 in rugged terrain may well be fitter than you think they are.

 

Heidi

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Subject: [RC]   Conditioned VS NonConditioned
From: Distance_Ryder <distance_ryder@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, November 02, 2006 8:50 pm
To: Cindy Collins <c_collins@xxxxxxx>, Ridecamp
<ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Cindy,

The difference in opinion here is that I consider it inhumane to ask my horse to give so much physically if he were not conditioned properly ahead of time. 

 

How could I look into those eyes and put ask him to go 25 or 50 miles without conditioning him first? 

Shadrach      He trusts that we are a partnership.  I may be a green horn at endurance, though I am no green horn with horses.  Cindy, you go ahead & ask an unconditioned horse to go the distance, though I am going to study up and make sure that I feel my horse has been conditioned before I go.  Let's end it here and agree to disagree....I am not much for gambling & that is what this is coming down to~

Best regards to you~
Christina & Shadrach

Owner/Trainer

Eclypse Sport Horses

 

 

Cindy Collins <c_collins@xxxxxxx> wrote:

...Because they keep emailing me directly....Although apparently I don't have enough experience in endurance riding to comment on conditioning horses :), let me just say that as a matter of fact I did take myself to an ultra run in the BigHorn mountains with no conditioning and managed to finish the 50 K (on a bet).  I completed within the required time in second to last place.  However, I never, ever said that I would take a 20+ year old horse out of the pasture and do 25 miles.  Let me try breaking down my original statement one more time:  

" Any horse + who can do 10-15 miles + at a reasonable pace + can easily finish + a 25 mile ride + within 6 hours."  Cindy 

  It takes a lot of time and work to build muscle and stamina.  If anyone thinks they can take a horse right out of pasture and it ought to do a 25 mile without a problem needs to try and run a 10K without any training first!  Then let's talk conditioning. 

In the meantime it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to read the stats on AERC for hours ridden in competition and then compare those names with the names on this message board! D'Arcy

Cindy Collins

c_collins@xxxxxxx

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