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Re: [RC] LD/50 times - rides2far@xxxxxxxx

Please forgive me for being confused by reading all these LD/50's 

mails....please tell me what an ideal time (approximate) you would 
give for an LD (25) withOUT hold time, and the same for the 50's (w/o 

holdtimes)  Thank you, and yes, reading the ride results with 

some having hold times and other not--- that being inconsistant is 

hard to decipher times.


Ideal is according to what horse you're riding. I've been on a horse 
who *easily* did a 50 under 5 hrs, and on another who comfortably 
completed in 8.  I think the cavalry considered 7 mph the ideal pace 
to cover ground. When I'm putting a base on my horse that's the 
ballpark I shoot for. If my time is 8 hrs. (like Gunner's 1st 50) 
it's because I stopped and let him graze. We probably averaged 7mph.

Angie
--- Begin Message --- Please forgive me for being confused by reading all these LD/50's mails....please tell me what an ideal time (approximate) you would give for an LD (25) withOUT hold time, and the same for the 50's (w/o holdtimes)  Thank you, and yes, reading the ride results with some having hold times and other not--- that being inconsistant is hard to decipher times.

terre <tobytrot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David said:
>That's not what anyone has said. They said the 50 mile riders went about 15%
>faster. So if the 50 was won in 5 hours even, a typical LD the same day
>would be won in about 2:50.

The problem with this observation--which is probably
true--is that it acts as if the two populations of horses and riders
were identical except for the distance being ridden. That, I think,
is not at all true.

I think the majority of the entrants in an LD are less "race
ready" than the entrants in a 50--old horses, young horses, horses
recovering from injuries, new riders, old riders, families with
children, people who don't have time to condition, people with health
issues, people who just plain aren't competitive and don't want to
beat themselves up. Even the 50 mile horses/riders doing an LD are
usually do so for a reason--like just having done a tough 50 or 100
recently, or whatever--otherwise they would probably do the 50.

Of course these people ride slower! And the people who ARE
racing the LD are not being pushed by a field of "racing"
competitors, so they don't have to ride as fast as they are capable
of in order to beat them--they only have to ride faster than the few
other "racers". That may be why some of them decline to move up to
the longer distance.

terre




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