RE: [RC] At least one good thing about starting the NC50 early (lengthy) - spiritwood@xxxxxxxxxTim, I couldn't have said it better! Many kudos to Amy for her great skills with horses and her totally classy behavior! I also know of her pain and suffering from her disorder. I and another had to help her to be able to stand on the scale at the finish when she could barely stand, let alone hold her saddle and equipment for the weigh in. Amy along with John Crandall were the ones who helped catch my loose horse from the "Irving Incident" and I can't thank her enough for saving me from going through what she went through agonizing as to the where-abouts of a missing horse at Ft. Valley for days or even weeks. They also untacked their sideways skewed tack and I was never so happy in my life to have my horse call to me from around the corner as I hiked up Moreland Gap rd in the PITCH DARK!. 3 weeks ago at the Peace Point ride Amy took on the last minute sponsering of my daughter for which I am so greatful. I crewed for them along with her friend Dawn and Tim who owns Ruby. They had multiple trail problems and more mud than believable and still "accidently" came in 4th and 5th at a tough ride. I and my daughter and friend Mary Howell (whose horse my daughter rode at PP),stand behind everything Tim said in his email. Amy Cieri and John Crandall are the best examples I know of what endurance is all about! I am proud to call them both friends!!! Becky Supinger #20132 and Elektric- who got body-slammed in the first mile by a runaway horse, then went down on the asphalt galloping around the turn, it just wasn't our day! Original Message: ----------------- From: tim miller shf@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:30:44 -0400 To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] At least one good thing about starting the NC50 early (lengthy) Amy commented how if they hadn't happened to see Ruby pee, they never would have guessed she had a problem. She speculated that there might be other such asymptomatic horses that go undetected -- especially if a ride ends later and darkness falls before the horse gets around to peeing, making the condition harder to detect.<<<< Jonni wrote: <And after reading this, I guess my mind just sees things differently. If she had finished later, she MIGHT not have been stressed as much, and might not have had her system compromised. (note I say might, as we all know that things happen to the best, most fit horses that we can't always foresee).> Jonni you're clearly not familiar with Mrs. Cieri who is universally respected in the NE region for her horsemanship and concern for the welfare of the horse. As the owner of this mare, I was honored and privileged to have Amy undertake the training, conditioning and riding of this mare commencing past February. I assure you this mare was not over-ridden by Amy and I would refer to her record this year which clearly reflects building to this ride. Amy is quite familiar with this area, having spent a week years ago searching for, and finally finding with the help of many others, a horse who stampeded out of camp along with several others. The mare she rode at the NC's had a metabolic pull in 2003, the testing at that ride and immediate subsequent blood tests were submitted to Cornell University where it was conclusively determined the mare was clearing toxins from her liver prior to the ride. The records were submitted to AERC offices. Amy was riding with John Crandell at the outset of the NC 50, she also dismounted and with John and they caught three riderless horses, untacked them and tied them securely to trees. A no brainer for either of these riders. Some chose to ride on by. John and Amy were in some important sense the winners of this ride. Post ride, Ruby was eating, drinking, peeing (clear) and pooping. She was alert, showed no signs of distress. Several hours thereafter, by dumb luck, both Amy and Dawn witnessed discoloration of urine and immediately reacted with elytes and walked her to the treatment vet. This mare appeared in estrus on Sunday. In 2004, in the NA 100 mile pre-ride, I had a mare going in exactly the same point in her cycle, at the last check she exhibited some similar signs. In that second last leg there was a dramatic weather change. Interestingly, at the same point in her cycle weeks later, she exhibited the same signs on a conditioning ride, after a mere five miles, at the onset of a dramatic weather change. Blood was drawn, other tests were taken, the only conclusion multiple vets could make was that estrus in combination with weather change caused the reaction. Amy Cieri has an inherited condition called Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. A connective tissue disease. She lives in pain constantly. Unbeknownst to me, Thursday past, while handling pumpkins, she suffered a severe dislocation of her hip/leg, by the last hold, she was barely capable of walking. The bond that had developed between her and Ruby was such that I declined to stand for BC in the absence of Amy's ability to show her. I thank Mary for bringing to the attention of the endurance community, a group in the forefront of horse welfare, the issue of horses completing rides, seemingly fine by all outward appearances, yet are in distress. How many are loaded in the trailer, taken home, and recover on their own? We continue to learn, not all cause and affects have been discovered. Anybody familiar with Amy Cieri will attest she is not capable of over-riding a horse. It goes against all she firmly stands for. If I had my pick of any of the great riders in this country, I would choose Amy every time. She is the epitome of what this sport stands for. Tim Miller Sami Hills Farm -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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