RE: [RC] Some tough questions for those that sell the Boots.. - Mike SherrellWith Peruvians it's not the joints, it's the suspensory tendons that are their vulnerable point. The reason is that their hind leg angle when moving tends to be not as vertical as with trotting breeds -- a trait called "reaching under" and which is praised, cultivated and trained for in the breed. When a Peruvian breeder or owner says they are looking for upright pasters they mean that only relatively; a Peruvian with pasterns as upright as a typical quarter horse would be labelled "posty-legged" and would be uncomfortable to ride. Peruvians are relatively rare on the trail so I look at a lot more trotting horses than trotting horse riders look at Peruvians. I think that the under-reaching leg angle is bred for because part of the smoothness of the ride comes from springing on those tendons. There are plenty of Peruvian babies born "down at the pasterns", in the terminology, that often have to be put down. Theoretically with a Peruvian hoof trimmed to the horse's conformation would be thereby trimmed to enhance the horse's gait, i.e., a properly-conformed Peruvian, conformation encompassing the hoof, naturally gaits well. However I will say that my heavily-ridden horses tend to wear down the outside of their hinds more than the insides because at the gait they slide in close to the centerline, whereas standing of course the legs are more splayed, so I choose to trim for even wear rather than "balance" on this horse, so I guess there is a conflict. As far as "lasting longer", there are many, many Peruvians still chugging well after 20, so choosing carefully will be rewarded. Regards, Mike Sherrell Grizzly Analytical (USA) 707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834 www.grizzlyanalytical.com -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Laney Humphrey Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:34 AM Cc: Ridecamp (E-mail) Subject: Re: [RC] Some tough questions for those that sell the Boots.. If I chose to be snippy, I'd point out that the Peruvian Paso breed has been plagued by joint problems because of their conformation, but instead I'll just say that there are millions of trotting horses with very sloping (non upright) pasterns just as I'm sure there are PPs with upright pasterns. In fact, I discussed this with a PP breeder last year. She said she looks for PPs with upright pasterns because she thinks they last longer. But the real issue is how any hoof should be trimmed. Seems to me that some people hear believe that the hoof should be trimmed according to the horse's conformation and others believe that the hoof should be trimmed to enhance a particular gait. That's an ancient disagreement that won't be solved here! I doubt there's an endurance/trail rider alive who doesn't love going fast along "knee knocker" trails! Enjoy!!! Laney Mike Sherrell wrote: The angles of Peruvians' leg and shoulder bones differ from those of other breeds. For example, it's easy to see from looking that a trotting horse has more upright pasterns, for example. Furthermore, the path of the foot differs at the gait ("a" gait, really; different Peruvians have different gaits, and each Peruvian also has different gaits) from the path of the hoof at the trot, striking the ground at a different angle. I am an addicted trail rider, and for me not much beats the thrill of gaiting rapidly down a narrow, twisting (but mostly flat) trail -- at about the speed of a good trot. For me it's like gaiting in the show ring except that it's about ten times as challenging to maintain the gait under the rapidly-varying conditions. Regards, Mike Sherrell Grizzly Analytical (USA) 707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834 www.grizzlyanalytical.com -----Original Message----- *From:* ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of *Karen Sullivan *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:27 PM *To:* kimfuess; Spottedracer@xxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* Re: [RC] Some tough questions for those that sell the Boots.. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* kimfuess <mailto:kimfue@xxxxxxxxxx> Why would a gaited breed require a different type of shoeing or trimming? Wouldn't a balanced, level, trim and good shoeing that is balanced and keeps the toes short be optimum for any horse? I am just interested in horses going down the trail not about special shoeing for the show ring or shoeing that would exagerate a certain gait. *Hi Kim, I agree with this totally!!! Or, from the other perspective...if you have to deviate from a good, balanced trim to get a certain gait; that has just got to negatively impact on joints; tendons and ligaments and long-term soundness of the horse down the road.... Karen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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