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I think part of the trouble explaining this is our mental picture of a 
modern TB.  Most of the "historical" TBs have a very heavy QH build by 
todays standards.  Here's a site with pictures AND info -- you'll need the 
info, as you can't tell the TBs from the QHs in most of the pics! 
http://www.circledhorses.com/some_great_horses.htm

Jen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sky Ranch" <skyranch@xxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] QUARTER HORSE PEOPLE - HELP!


> The formula, the limit on TB blood, just does not wash with me.  The early
> *true* foundation horses DID have TB blood, quite a bit, in fact, and also
> Arabian and other breeds.  In fact, some of the QH foundation horses were
> 100% TB, registered TB.
>
> My grandfather (E.G. "Gus" Scroggins) is in the AQHA Hall of Fame.   He 
> knew
> how a performance horse should be put together, and he liked TB's.  He is 
> in
> the Hall of Fame because he was an inspector and a judge in the early days
> of AQHA (1940's and 50's), traveling around inspecting horses, helping to
> establish the registry.  Horses were inspected for conformation, and if 
> they
> met the standard they could be registered as a QH.  The QH was supposed to
> be a horse that could do it "all."  A true performance horse.
>
> To say that a foundation QH qualifies just because he doesn't have TB in a
> set number of generations?  That's not really a good definition, imho.  If
> you want to really say you have a "foundation" type of QH, then go back to
> the early standard and look at the type - conformation - *not* the 
> pedigree.
> The early pedigrees were often VERY vague, because the horses were
> crossbred, grades, or purebreds that they didn't want to *admit* in the
> pedigree, if you get my meaning.
>
> There were plenty of TB's and Arabians in the early QH.  Especially the
> much-revered King Ranch of Texas -- for example one of their foundation
> sires, Old Sorrel, a thoroughbred, was used extensively in their lines.
> They did a lot of close, or line, breeding to cement the look, 
> performance,
> cow, and speed, in their horses.  The dished face and small stature of the
> early King Ranch horses, as well as the great cow sense, and the nimble
> footed cutting horses owe a lot to the Arabian and Spanish lines.
>
> As most of you know, the horse that has completed the most Tevis Cup rides
> was a Quarter Horse.  I think that's pretty great.  Anyone who's working 
> to
> produce that type is my kind of QH breeder!
>
> Carla Richardson
> Colorado
>
>
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