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John,

I was not responding to your having team competition at your ride. I was 
responding to the blurb in the AERC-I column in the EN and the post of 
the young lady from the midwest.

There are a lot of team competitions around. The OD has had Team 
competitions for a long time. SEDRA has yearly team competitions that 
includes both endurance and CTR's. It's quite common. Team are fine. 
That, however, is not what the proposal in the AERC-I column in the EN 
was addressing.

Truman

John Teeter wrote:
> > Truman wrote:
> > ... I .,. assume ... 100 mile AERC rides ... also sanctioned FEI
> > would be used for this concept. ... use of AERC rides for selection ...
> > USEF specifies one or two rides for this process,... desire on
> > the part of the USEF ... the AERC BOD ... strictly armature
> > sport ... quasi-professional international endurance racing ... under
> > the FEI/USEF. ... USEF programs .. have a negative impact on the
> > AERC ...
>
> I selectively quoted the above (go back to the original for the full 
> thing).
>
> No selection process; no chef d'equips; no AeRC recogition at the 
> annual banquet; simply whoever wants to be on a team together at a 
> particular ride - that's the team. Teams make the focus of the event 
> shift. It's a strategy game not a speed game.
>
> My point is that I don't think my suggestion has ANYTHING to do with 
> AERC or USEF or FEI.
> I disagree with Truman that the AERC (or the USEF) needs to be 
> involved in this kind of thing. What they need to do is not prohibit 
> or discourage innovation; rather encourage and promote it.
>
> A selection process applies an exclusivity which is totally 
> unnecessary (and counter productive) in the current situation (where 
> there are declining long distance entries).
>
> Rather limit each team to 4 members and encourage as many teams as 
> possible! Involving AERC and USEF just makes it un-necessarily 
> structured and complex IMO.
>
> jt.
> (ps. note that the PNER team concept is for ALL distances, including 
> LD - no reason that 100s should have ALL the fun!!)
>
> (pps. Truman's comment about AERC, AERC-I, and USEF needing to come to 
> grips with their roles in life IS a particularly important topic IMO. 
> AERC-I is only an advisory entity within the USEF endurance structure. 
> AERC, while the designated disciplain organiation, also has no 
> authority re: USEF National Endurance programs. All of the USEF 
> endurance is driven by input from the USEF Endurance VP (Art Prietz); 
> the USEF Endurance Technical Committee; the USEF High Performance 
> Active Competitors Committee, and the USEF Vet Committee (I think). 
> The USEF does not recognize "zones" (that's an AERC-I thing) which 
> USEF has, in the past, for individual competitions, allowed to have 
> meaning. The USEF Selection process is USEF driven - staffed at the 
> discression of the USEF staff etc.
>
> Correct me (on the AERC members list:) if I'm incorrect in this.)


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