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RE: [SPAM] [RC] Arabian Bloodlines - heidi

Just a few corrections....
 
The Crabbet horses were primarily bred from the Blunt imports from Egypt.  Skowronek was an outcross brought in by Lady Wentworth.  To her dying day, she maintained a non-Skowronek breeding nucleus, despite her fondness for Skowronek.
 
Remington Steele did not ever win Tevis.  He has a career total of 605 miles (you have to combine his "no ID" record with his regular record).  He was ridden only sporadically--he has completions in 1989, 1996, 2000, and 2003.  He has completed Tevis once and has been pulled from Tevis on two other occasions for metabolic issues.  His last completion was in 2003.  You are correct that he is a rare horse in that he has the level of halter wins that he has and still has endurance completions.  However his endurance record would not tend to make one want to run out and breed to halter horses.  He has a mixed pedigree and has produced some endurance horses more capable than himself--as Frank said, look at the mares.  I had the privilege of vetting a very nice son of his at the IAHA Region 3 CTR Championship several years ago.
 
Heidi



Heidi and others who are breeding CMK type Arabians must be commended for their attempts to continue a valuable line of Arabian breeding. One also must remeber the Van Vleets (from CO) and the AM horses that weren't bred for endurance but were bred to be working cow horses (ranch horses) However, there are other lines that are also valuable. If I remember correctly Polish Arabians were developed from 6 different strains of desert bred horses. The Crabbet horses were primarily bred out of the Ibrahim line (Ibrahim, Skowronek, Nassem, and Negatiw). Negatiw produced some incredible horses (Nabor, Salon, Bandos, Diem, Etiw to name a few).
 
However there are other lines that are not always associated with the Crabbet horses. I think an example would be Karadjordje (out of Gerwazy & Karramba). Gerwazy was out of Doktryner & Gwara (who was out of Wielki Szlem who was out of Ofir and Elegantka).
Karramba was out of Witraz who was out of Ofir who was out of Kuhailan Haifi d.b. (one of the major strains of Polish Arabians. The dam line of Karramba (Karmen II) represents yet another strain of Arabians. Karmen II sire was Kohelian I out of Koheilan IV.
 
The Taylor farm in Utah represents some of these lines of Arabians. They are the current home to Aladdin. Aladdin, at 25 is currently the oldest living sire and arguably the most prolific sire of Arabian Champions in the world. In the endurance world a horse by the name of Remington Steele++  (out of Karadjordje) is the only Top Ten Arabian Halter Stallion in the history of the breed to win a "Tevis" 100-Miles one day event, and he is still competing.
 
This is just one line of Arabian breeding. There are others. But one thing I have noticed that the look of the horse bred today is different than those that were bred in the 1950s and earlier. the earlier horses were stockier. They were being bred for work as well as show. This change with the collapse of the Arabian market in the 1980s. It is starting to swing the other way again with the advent of Arabian reining. There appears to be more emphasis on performance rather than type and much greater interest in some of the older (and now considered rare) lines.
 
The Shagya horses were Hungary's answer to a more performance oriented horse with greater stature.
 
Anyway if anyone is interested you can check out pedigrees at www.janow.arabians.pl/en/pedigree-database.php (the Janow stud database) and look at photos of just about any Polish Arabian at http://public.fotki.com/hypoint/arabians/arabian_album_polis/.
 
 
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