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RE: [RC] shoes - Karen StandeferThere are a million reasons why a horse would be sore after pulling shoes. The feet may be genetically very weak. Or, the farrier could have made them weak through long term incorrect trimming/shoeing techniques. It's difficult to speculate without some diagnostics (hoof testers and maybe x-rays to see what's going on inside). Horses also founder for a million reasons. If the founder was a mechanical founder it is possible that the shoes were just holding everything together by a thread. Pulling the shoe off could have caused what little stability the hoof had left to deteriorate. In a case like this, it is not the state of being barefoot that causes the founder. It is having really poor hoof conformation (likely caused by man, not genetics). Many farriers trim the sole in front of the foot at every shoeing in order to get the hoof angle and pastern angle to match (as opposed to making the distance from the tip of the frog to the end of the toe shorter which will also change the hoof/pastern axis, but without weakening/thinning the sole under the coffin bone). Sole material grows excruciatingly slow. So, doing this at every trim will eventually take it's toll on the hoof and will make the laminar connection between the hoof wall and coffin bone very weak. It's entirely possible that is what happened to this horse. This scenario happens frequent with a foot that grows a long toe and low heel (underrun heels). I would bet on this if the horse only foundered in the one hoof. But, I would also bet that clinically (using x-rays), the horse is also foundered (or sunken) in the other hoof as well. Karen -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kisha Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:23 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] shoes Would like to know if anyone pulls thier shoes during time off? Do your horses get sore after pulling shoes. I have friends who's horses have gone severly lame/founder after shoes are pulled or lost . Had one friend who thought of going barefoot and pulled her shoes and the horse instantly went lame on both fronts, he stood in his stall in the middle of a pile of shavings and wouldn't move, when the farrier put the shoes back on the next day he was instantly fine. (WIERD)!! The other horse lost a shoe while out trail riding, had to walk about 1/2 mile down some gravel and foundered on that foot the next day. Can anyone explain what causes this? Bad shoeing over a long period of time? Please keep this friendly. Just very curious? Kisha _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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