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RE: [RC] 100's - FEI - Owyhee 100 - Steph TeeterBob - you missed the smiley face :) -----Original Message----- From: Bob Morris [mailto:bobmorris@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:43 PM To: 'Steph Teeter'; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] 100's - FEI - Owyhee 100 Steph: You state:<<<or maybe you could sign up for the AERC 50-elevator, and the FEI 100, and then if you want to stop at 50....>>> Why would a rider go to the trouble to do all the FEI and USEF paperwork for the horse and rider and then contemplate the above? I would presume that if a person went to the trouble of entering the FEI 100 mile ride they have the experience and confidence that they can handle a 100 mile ride. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steph Teeter Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:05 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] 100's - FEI - Owyhee 100 and actually it's a CEI** also (FEI 50 mile)! which is pretty worthless but I just found out that I (unintentionally) requested FEI sanctioning for both 100 and 50 mile distances on the sanctioning form and it was approved, and to un-do the 50 mile FEI portion I have to send in a signed form, blah blah, and I hate the paperwork so will probably just leave it the way it is... So I wonder if there is such a thing as an FEI elevator ride... or maybe you could sign up for the AERC 50-elevator, and the FEI 100, and then if you want to stop at 50.... :) Steph -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steph Teeter Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:21 PM To: Dabney Finch; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] 100's - FEI Dabney - the ride is in the NW region (maybe you were looking in Mountain?) It's May 20 100 AERC/FEI and ..... 50-100 Elevator :) Steph (which means the 50's and 100's will start together at 5:30 AM!) -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dabney Finch Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:01 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] 100's - FEI Steph: This post made me look for your ride on AERC (also crewless; some say clueless), but couldn't find it. Would you post the info (date, location) here for us? Thanks! Dabney (& Kowyhee--with a name like that--I should be entered in the Owyhee!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steph Teeter" <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:55 PM Subject: RE: [RC] 100's - FEI I have to agree with some of you that FEI can make it less fun, more stressful, etc. (as a rider and as a ride manager!) It helps for the RM to have a done a couple, and it really makes a difference to have staff (FEI vets, judges, stewards, TD's) that works well together, and keeps things friendly and low key. Having an overzealous steward can be a bit of a nuisance. It's a balancing act for the most part. Karen - to answer your questions:Now I have questions for you Steph. ;) How hard would it be to do your May 100 without a crew? >> Shoudn't be a problem. I'm still fine tuning the loops but there won't be a 'designated crewing area' - you can go wherever you want after you see the vet. We've changed the vetting area in camp so it's right next to the parking area now, which makes it easier to just go to your own trailer for holds. There will be a 50 mile loop though with one out-vet check which you will use twice. So you'll need to send stuff out, but we'll take stuff out for folks that don't have a crew.Can we just go in and get our pulse and then go pull our tack and comeback to vet (without having to have an argument)? >> Good question. I don't know why not... RM's would have to set the pulse gate traffic flow up to allow that. But, we (Arabian Nights, Owyhee 100) are doing this a little different now - riders go directly to the vets after entering the 'pulse gate' rather than having pulse-takers as an intermediate step. With a lot of vets this is possible, and in the event that you enter the pulse gate but a vet isn't available your horse can eat while waiting, and you are not losing any time while you wait.How many vetchecks do you require tack off >>- Tack/no-tack is pretty muchup to the head-vet (Mike Foss is our head vet), with input from ride managers, etc. I don't know the answer to this yet, but my guess is that most of the checks will be tack-off.how many vetchecks, out of and in camp are there>>Probably (still deciding) the first 2 holds will be out (over by the river) and the last 3 will be in camp., and how many hours/mins. of hold times do you have? >> probably 30, 50,60, 50, 30 - might change according to weather. I like to give pretty long holds in general. And this will be close to the summer solstice, lots of daylight, and a pretty easy course, nobody should be worried about going overtime.I would guess that most FEI riders have crews, whereas a lot of regularAERC riders don't, and that is where part of trying to get thru those types of rides becomes difficult.>> I understand - and will really try to encourage 'regular' AERC riders, first time 100's, etc - by making it as easy as possible w/o crew. Keep the suggestions coming - we can make this work. Plus I'm thinking of sanctioning this as an elevator ride :))) (50's and 100's will start together at 5:30 AM....) Steph =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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